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navarth

(5,927 posts) Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:52 PM Dec 2012

Need some quick help with 'Right To Work'...arguing with teabagger

Friends, I need some quick links to counter a claim that right to work states are doing just fine with happy workers.

I'm saying of course they're doing just fine, they're freeloading off of the union states. But I thought I heard something about the RTW states not doing that great statistically and I need links to that info as quickly as possible.

Can anybody help?

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Need some quick help with 'Right To Work'...arguing with teabagger (Original Post) navarth Dec 2012 OP

Sure, here's a link ... Scuba Dec 2012 #1

Thanks, I can google myself navarth Dec 2012 #2

what is quicker than google? datasuspect Dec 2012 #3

research goes faster with a little help from friends navarth Dec 2012 #9

This might help... KansDem Dec 2012 #4

Lakoff said it best. He calls it corporate servitude laws meow2u3 Dec 2012 #5

Here is a good plcdude Dec 2012 #6

This was posted earlier n2doc Dec 2012 #7

Right To Work and poverty. jody Dec 2012 #8

Thank you all. nt navarth Dec 2012 #10

Texas is a right to work state rustydog Dec 2012 #11

This too. Brickbat Dec 2012 #12

Good stuff, thank you all. navarth Dec 2012 #13

Scuba

(53,475 posts)

1. Sure, here's a link ...

Reply to navarth (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:01 PM

Dec 2012

http:www.lmgtfy.com/?q=income in right to work states

navarth

(5,927 posts)

2. Thanks, I can google myself

Reply to Scuba (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:06 PM

Dec 2012

I was trying to do it quick. Thanks anyway.

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)

3. what is quicker than google?

Reply to navarth (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:12 PM

Dec 2012

waiting for DUers to post links?

navarth

(5,927 posts)

9. research goes faster with a little help from friends

Reply to datasuspect (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:20 PM

Dec 2012

If you don't want that, just ignore me. It's quite simple. I've asked for a quick help before and was never given a hard time.

I did not intend to offend anybody.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)

4. This might help...

Reply to navarth (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:17 PM

Dec 2012

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/03/05/148930/top-five-things-unions/?mobile=nc

In summary--
1. Unions Gave Us The Weekend
2. Unions Gave Us Fair Wages And Relative Income Equality
3. Unions Helped End Child Labor
4. Unions Won Widespread Employer-Based Health Coverage
5. Unions Spearheaded The Fight For The Family And Medical Leave Act

If right to work states have happy workers, they can thank the unions...

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)

5. Lakoff said it best. He calls it corporate servitude laws

Reply to navarth (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:22 PM

Dec 2012

In other words, he's strongly suggesting we reframe the debate to make union busting out to be the backdoor legalization of servitude it is.

Tell this RWNJ that the so-called "right to work" laws will do nothing but allow bosses to rob him of his dignity and reduce him to little more than a slave.

plcdude

(5,310 posts)

6. Here is a good

Reply to navarth (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:36 PM

Dec 2012

discussion. http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/12/12/myths-and-facts-about-right-to-work-laws/191810

n2doc

(47,953 posts)

7. This was posted earlier

Reply to navarth (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:43 PM

Dec 2012

jody

(26,624 posts)

8. Right To Work and poverty.

Reply to navarth (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:09 PM

Dec 2012

Table 4. People in Poverty by State Using 3-Year Averages Over 20091, 20101, and 2011—Con reports 48,423 people below the poverty level. http://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/p60-244.pdf

Using that government report one finds:

58% of those in poverty live in states without a right-to-work law.

42% of those in poverty live in states with a right-to-work law.

Poverty rate for non right to work states is 15.6 per 100,000

Poverty rate for right to work states is 15.5 per 100,000

navarth

(5,927 posts)

10. Thank you all. nt

Reply to navarth (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:27 PM

Dec 2012

rustydog

(9,186 posts)

11. Texas is a right to work state

Reply to navarth (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:35 PM

Dec 2012

Texas takes in from Uncle sam about $ 1.69 for very dollar they send to the US treasury.
Texas is a right to work welfare state living off of my tax dollar.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)

12. This too.

Reply to navarth (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:18 PM

Dec 2012

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=419509441448898&set=a.374536155946227.83663.374534062613103&type=1&theater

navarth

(5,927 posts)

13. Good stuff, thank you all.

Reply to navarth (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:34 PM

Dec 2012

These posts, along with my own researches took very good care of this current episode of my ongoing argument.

It's all on the local level now. These bastards have made my wonderful state a laughing stock. They've got me seriously pissed at them now, and I'm not alone.

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