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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:57 PM Dec 2012

How much longer can Republicans ignore public opinion?

How much longer can Republicans ignore public opinion?

Posted by Greg Sargent

That isn’t meant as a rhetorical question. I’d genuinely like to know whether Republicans are grappling with it, and how. That’s because the GOP finds itself trapped in a contradiction that will require that question to be dealt with sooner or later.

Some of the party’s most sacred principles lead to positions that are deeply unpopular. At the same time, many individual GOP lawmakers have clear incentives to continue to hold those positions. They come from safe districts where majorities agree with them, and standing behind them earns praise from conservative interest groups and media. Yet those positions — and their underlying principles — are damaging the party as a whole. Regular association with them may be increasingly damaging the party’s “brand” — Republicans lost the election in part because they were seen as patrons of the wealthy — and they constrain the party from reaching the compromise with Dems the public overwhelmingly wants, hurting its overall image further still.

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Yet individual GOP lawmakers continue to have strong incentives to stick with an increasingly unpopular overall posture: That we should sooner cut deeply into cherished government programs that benefit millions and millions of Americans than raise tax rates on the top 2 percent. This predicament is one of the GOP’s own making. As Jonathan Chait puts it: “It was Republicans who elevated the unpopular cause of low income tax rates for the rich to a sacred principle, built an entire party theology around punishing even the slightest dissent from that principle, and then enacted the sacred agenda through a rickety budget mechanism that caused it all to expire after a decade.”

The GOP is in a terrible spot, which is why some conservatives, such as Philip Klein, are calling on Republicans to permanently extend the middle class tax cuts while letting the high end rates go up, to live to fight another day. But it’s unclear whether that solves the basic underlying problem here, which is that the GOP vision of governance seems to be fundamentally and increasingly out of step with how majorities view its proper scope and role. The Pew poll finds Dems with significant leads on many other domestic issues, like education, energy, health care, and Social Security. And Republicans are so dedicated to seeing deep (and unpopular) entitlement cuts that they are preparing a showdown over the debt ceiling to achieve them. It’s true that the politics of the debt ceiling don’t automatically favor Dems (because people associate it with over-spending in the abstract). But the GOP brand is so tarnished — even as Obama’s popularity is rising — that the public may implicitly trust the President in the next showdown, too, particularly if he opposes the sort of entitlements cuts the GOP wants.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2012/12/13/how-much-longer-can-republicans-ignore-public-opinion/


Americans don't agree with Republicans on these issues:



What the millionaires want versus what the voters want
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/07/1162018/-What-the-millionaires-want-versus-what-the-voters-want

Even a significant number of Republicans voters don't agree with them on these issues.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/101785802

Elected Republicans serve the Koch brothers, not the public.

How Michigan Voters Can Repeal The GOP’s Anti-Union Powergrab
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021962829

Still, Republicans are showing that they have no intetion of honoring the will of the people.

Michigan House passes new version of emergency law repealed by voters
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021972419

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unblock

(52,273 posts)
2. as long as the rich continue to pay them to do just that.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:00 PM
Dec 2012

i don't see the rich running out of money any time soon....

Johonny

(20,861 posts)
5. I think forever
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:23 PM
Dec 2012

they are still fighting the "new deal" of FDR, the "great society" of Johnson, and the cultural revolution of the 60s and the new cultural revolution of today... hell they are still fighting the civil war and cold war.

They have nothing to offer but the past that they pretend was somehow different and grand.

LonePirate

(13,427 posts)
6. Rs do not care about public opinion because their voters will not elect Ds
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:51 PM
Dec 2012

Most of them are in safe positions so they could care less what the general public thinks.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
7. They don't have to...right now they are asking themselves
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:59 PM
Dec 2012

how can they change how they convey their message. Not how do they change, they don't want to, the people they are sworn to serve are already backing these assholes. Billionaires and Corporations and the Supreme Court who decided Corporations are people and money is free speech.



Fuck the republicans but don't dismiss them. VOTE and get out the vote in numbers they cannot supress or intimidate. We outnumber Republicans, they out spend us 100 to 1.
Truth, integrity and love of country is on our side. Bigotry, hatred and dirty money on theirs.

They want our children in coal mines again. Newt Gingrich wants my grandkids mopping the floors in his grand kids school. John Boner wants an emaciated female pouring his Merlot in his private club knowing her inferred tips are taxed whether he tips her or not....We do not count to these fuckers, we are their intended servant class.

They do not want to change

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
8. ... for as long as there are enough people gullible enough to believe the Republican propaganda. nt
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:38 PM
Dec 2012

moondust

(19,997 posts)
11. For as long as they can keep gerrymandering themselves into power?
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:52 PM
Dec 2012

Until "private opinion" tells them to do something?

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