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Stinky The Clown

(67,818 posts)
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:39 PM Dec 2012

I can think of no better time to start a dialogue on gun control than right now.

Yes, people pull the trigger. They make a choice to do that.

However, if there are no triggers to pull, then people will not be shot.

That sums up my own view about guns.

There were apparently no assault rifles used by today's shooter. Just two handguns. Two of the untold millions of them out there.

Millions.

And some of them are owned by crazy people who sit in their chairs watching the news and raging. Rocking in their chair and raging. Rocking and Raging. Blaming others for their lives.

Most of them will just be sad stories of lives lived to no significance.

But a few of them will grab their guns and act on their rage.

This may or may not have to do with today's shooting. Indeed, it is little more than a word picture I painted to make my point.

And those few crazy people who sit and rock and rage are EXACTLY why we need to lock down guns in this country. But that genie long left the confines of the bottle. So now we have a far greater task ahead of us.

But this can NOT be allowed to continue.

So yeah, let's talk about gun control.

Right now.





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I can think of no better time to start a dialogue on gun control than right now. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 OP
I will talk. Tomorrow. eom uppityperson Dec 2012 #1
yeah stellanoir Dec 2012 #2
Disagree. Lasher Dec 2012 #3
Okay - first of all, does it work, gun control? closeupready Dec 2012 #4
No. Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #5
Gun bans don't always work, though. closeupready Dec 2012 #6
Since that's not going to happen what is your other answer? former-republican Dec 2012 #7
Open cauldrons Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #8
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
6. Gun bans don't always work, though.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:04 PM
Dec 2012

Australia did that in 1997, and their violent crime rate actually ROSE:

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847

>>It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

* In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
* Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
* Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.

Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:<<

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