Have one without the other..the act is both mental and evil.that's what I meant

stable person choose to act that way. I think maybe they would not.

Yes evil will affect your thoughts and you do stupid reckless tragic things as a result.but evil and hate lurks in your heart.IMO.and u commit tragic things

and "crazy" without being mentally ill.

but, arguably, when that "just mean" and "crazy", presents itself in the form of a mass shooting, I think we can accurately say that "just mean" and "crazy" person is mentally ill.

There are people out there who have enormous inchoate anger. I don't know whether they qualify as "mentally ill" or not, and I have a lot of experience with the mental health system. I've been in outpatient programs a couple of times and I've seen a lot of depression - the problem I have battled - but I've never seen anything like the seething anger that drives many of the gun nuts.

The baffling thing is why, even if we assume for the purposes of argument that this guy was a paranoid schizophrenic, would he shoot up a kindergarten? That is chilling and horrifying at a level well beyond even the other massacres of the last few years.

with a recognition that every human state lines on a continium, so does mental illness. As I would place internalized anxiety that affects one's life at one end of the continium, I would place violent acts stemming from that anxiety at the other extreme.

I'll continue to believe in medical science and believe that these tragic shootings are always committed by people with mental illness.

I hate this "just evil" voodoo. It's a great way to avoid discussing and understanding issues. "It's a FORCE, come down from the sky..."

How can killing numbers of people represent evidence of being normal? Being coherent does not mean you're sane.

--imm

"Evil" offers no understanding and no solutions.

Commit acts like this and if caught alive.sometimes they say they did it out of hate and the hate is a diagnosed mental illness? I'm just asking cause I do believe that hate and evil and being mental is intertwined and not just exclusively just mentally ill or just evil

fucking stupid post. really.

Is a personality condition and part of your figurative heart.there are people who are mean evil and wicked. They are of course "mental".but I don't believe that all mentally sick people can commit acts of mass murder or are mean wicked or evil its just not apart of their Psyche..but mean wicked evil people can do this.

lifetime disqualifiers from even TOUCHING a gun again.

possess a gun of any kind, and if caught, make it LWOP.

No skin off my back, so I don't care. I DO care that we get serious about keeping guns out of the hands of loose cannons.

Personally I wouldn't have much of a problem with that but I'm not one that has to be convinced.

The Science of Evil: On Empathy and the Origins of Cruelty
by Simon Baron-Cohen

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0465031420

A mental health issue.but not all people with mental health issues are murderers.I feel no one with mental health issues should have a gun.but you can't seperate that not only the act was mental it was evil too.

is a murdering psycopath.

He must have had some deep seated issues with his parents. It appears that he was living with his mother and father in the not too distant past in Sandy Hook, since online white pages list them all at one address. He attended Quinnipiac College, so mental health records there will be of interest.

He apparently killed his father in NJ. Then he drove to his mother's house and killed someone there, possibly a sibling or mother's new significant other, then he went to her school and killed adminstrative staff, searched out his mother's room, and killed her and her students.

Most likely the kindergartners were part of his revenge against his mother.

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The above is wrong, because it was based on Ryan Lanza. The shooter was his younger brother Adam. However, Adam did kill someone at his mother's house, then drove to the school, etc.