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pnwmom

(108,994 posts) Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:00 PM Dec 2012

What we know about the weapon the CT shooter used.

The massacre in Connecticut that's taken the lives of at least 29 people was reportedly perpetrated with a .223 caliber rifle, according to NBC.

The caliber .223 is pretty common in the civilian side of weaponry, but it's basically the same caliber of the NATO 5.56 round the military uses (just a little bit more umph on the military version).

The shooter was using one Sig Sauer and one Glock, according to CNN. Glock doesn't make an assault style rifle, but Sig Sauer is the Rolls Royce of assault rifle producers.

The weapons that use .223 caliber ammunition range from bolt-action rifles to the more "assault" type semi-automatic rifles. New Jersey and Connecticut both have strict gun laws in place banning their own definitions of "assault" rifles — but a simple trip across the border into Pennsylvania can secure weapons illegal in both those aforementioned states, or one can just buy weapons on the web.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/what-gun-did-the-sandy-hook-shooter-use-2012-12#ixzz2F3v7ljRH

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What we know about the weapon the CT shooter used. (Original Post) pnwmom Dec 2012 OP

while the corpses cool, gun owners excitedly talk about the hardware nt msongs Dec 2012 #1

Pathetic, isn't it. Seems it's their entire life. n/t godai Dec 2012 #2

My concern is with the ease with which people can get hold of assault weapons, pnwmom Dec 2012 #4

AWB should be back in place nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #7

It certainly should. n/t pnwmom Dec 2012 #12

a lot of our politicians have blood on their hands today /nt still_one Dec 2012 #3

from the same news provider... ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2012 #5

So assumably he passed a background check. lpbk2713 Dec 2012 #11

not the point... ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2012 #13

.223 is also used for hunting nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #6

Vermont has somewhat looser gun laws than Pennsylvania FarCenter Dec 2012 #8

From CNN: Are_grits_groceries Dec 2012 #9

I love them semi auto center rimmed hunting weapons nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #15

Oh yes, the type of gun is so fucking important when it's used to kill children. Whovian Dec 2012 #10

Actually it matters nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #14

and when we learn what weapon was actually USED ProdigalJunkMail Dec 2012 #16

The first six people shot might disagree. Robb Dec 2012 #17

msongs

(67,441 posts)

1. while the corpses cool, gun owners excitedly talk about the hardware nt

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:01 PM

Dec 2012

godai

(2,902 posts)

2. Pathetic, isn't it. Seems it's their entire life. n/t

Reply to msongs (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:02 PM

Dec 2012

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)

4. My concern is with the ease with which people can get hold of assault weapons,

Reply to msongs (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:04 PM

Dec 2012

that are capable of killing dozens of people in seconds.

I see nothing in this article promoting these weapons.

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)

7. AWB should be back in place

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:08 PM

Dec 2012

In a ny second.

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)

12. It certainly should. n/t

Reply to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:12 PM

Dec 2012

still_one

(92,395 posts)

3. a lot of our politicians have blood on their hands today /nt

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:03 PM

Dec 2012

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)

5. from the same news provider...

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:07 PM

Dec 2012

• The gunman was reportedly wearing all black, a mask and a bullet-proof vest while carrying Glock and Sig Sauer 9mm handgun. Officials tell CBS News that a .223 caliber rifle was found in his car, and that all of the guns were legally purchased by Ryan Lanza.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/sandy-hook-shooting-gundman-2012-12#ixzz2F3weN68F

Did he go back out to his car after the shooting or during? I thought he was killed in the schoolhouse?

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lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)

11. So assumably he passed a background check.

Reply to ProdigalJunkMail (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:12 PM

Dec 2012

This shows how valuable a backround check is. Little to none.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)

13. not the point...

Reply to lpbk2713 (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:15 PM

Dec 2012

the point is that people are saying which weapon was used to do what... and no one fucking knows. it doesn't MATTER what weapon he used to do what. people see a tragedy that hits their little sweet spot and can't wait to jump all over it without fact-fucking-one!

it is disgusting ... on both sides of the gun-control debate.

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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)

6. .223 is also used for hunting

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:07 PM

Dec 2012

And he went hunting, just not deer.

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)

8. Vermont has somewhat looser gun laws than Pennsylvania

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:08 PM

Dec 2012

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Vermont
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Pennsylvania

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)

9. From CNN:

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:10 PM

Dec 2012

“@nytjim: “@cnnbrk: 3 guns found at #CTshooting scene: .223 Bushmaster, Glock, Sig-Sauer, police say. http://t.co/iiPaUHZI””

This is the gun the Beltway Sniper used in DC.

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)

15. I love them semi auto center rimmed hunting weapons

Reply to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:22 PM

Dec 2012

With a larger magazine capacity. that is the Bushmaster.

Whovian

(2,866 posts)

10. Oh yes, the type of gun is so fucking important when it's used to kill children.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:10 PM

Dec 2012

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)

14. Actually it matters

Reply to Whovian (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:21 PM

Dec 2012

Because it will need to be part of the discussion

A six shooter, like a 38 special, even with faster loading devices, is far less lethal potentially than a semi auto, firing a round designed to hunt humans.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)

16. and when we learn what weapon was actually USED

Reply to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:23 PM

Dec 2012

and stop guessing, then the discussion will be appropriate. until then... it is disgusting.

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Robb

(39,665 posts)

17. The first six people shot might disagree.

Reply to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:25 PM

Dec 2012

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