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reflection

(6,286 posts)
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:52 PM Dec 2012

Comment in my local paper regarding the school shooting.

Under story with headline "Obama calls for 'meaningful action' after shooting"

"take meaningful action' regardless of politics" should include cessation of creating victim pools in schools. Arming teachers would be the meaningful action. How many lives could have been saved this morning if a teacher would have been allowed to return fire?

Consider this. Really, if we can't trust a great teacher with a gun, how can we trust them with our children.

Guns really do help protect folks, otherwise police would not need to carry them.


My god, the stupidity, the lack of critical thinking skills, is utterly mindblowing.

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Comment in my local paper regarding the school shooting. (Original Post) reflection Dec 2012 OP
Just out of curiosity, where are you approximately? AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #1
Shelby County, TN reflection Dec 2012 #9
Sounded like my Garland County, Arkansas for a second AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #14
"Senile-Record" reflection Dec 2012 #19
Yes, let's arm kindergarten teachers! tblue Dec 2012 #2
There was a thread on DU today arguing the same thing... Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #3
yeah, i think i saw that barbtries Dec 2012 #5
Somebody posted a video of women shooters today. upaloopa Dec 2012 #4
Are we surprised by this? Freedomofspeech Dec 2012 #6
I'm down with arming teachers Robb Dec 2012 #7
You can pry my bacon from my cold dead hands!!! Glassunion Dec 2012 #22
In light of new evidence presented, I wish to revise and expand my remarks... Robb Dec 2012 #25
Errr.... twenty years of telling us teachers suck and now they want to arm them. aandegoons Dec 2012 #8
That was my first thought also. reflection Dec 2012 #17
A response to that "article" a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #10
Response to the OP's question ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #11
If we can't trust teachers with vest-piercing bullets, Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #16
Actaully, I read that the vest was just one of those Glassunion Dec 2012 #24
Following this assclown's rationale ... lpbk2713 Dec 2012 #12
dumbfuck. spanone Dec 2012 #13
I'm a teacher. Today was stressful. I'm glad I wasn't armed. Bucky Dec 2012 #15
Nothing like crossfire to really fix a bad situation. DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #18
The Pearl, MS shooting was stopped by an armed teacher Recursion Dec 2012 #20
I hear you and understand. reflection Dec 2012 #21
I agree Recursion Dec 2012 #23
 

AldoLeopold

(617 posts)
14. Sounded like my Garland County, Arkansas for a second
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:02 PM
Dec 2012

Like one of the many editorials found in our local Sentinel-Record (affectionately dubbed the Senile-Record by local residents)

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
4. Somebody posted a video of women shooters today.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:56 PM
Dec 2012

The recoil just about took there heads off.
The only solution to gunners is more guns.
If I were a shooter and knew teachers were armed I'd shoot them first.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
7. I'm down with arming teachers
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:58 PM
Dec 2012

.45 automatic pistols and training for all teachers.

In exchange I'll take a wholesale ban on everything that shoots bullets with the word "tactical" in its name.

Sounds fair to me.

aandegoons

(473 posts)
8. Errr.... twenty years of telling us teachers suck and now they want to arm them.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:59 PM
Dec 2012

Wow they cannot even keep their stupid in a straight line.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
17. That was my first thought also.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:06 PM
Dec 2012

The teachers have been denigrated and practically called subhumans where I live, and now they want to arm them. Pretzel-like logic, that.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
11. Response to the OP's question ...
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:01 PM
Dec 2012
How many lives could have been saved this morning if a teacher would have been allowed to return fire?


Probably none ... unless that teacher was returning fire with bullet-proof vest piercing bullets.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
24. Actaully, I read that the vest was just one of those
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:25 PM
Dec 2012

ones you can hang stuff from. Not a ballistic vest.

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
12. Following this assclown's rationale ...
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:01 PM
Dec 2012



given time it won't matter how well a teacher's students perform on benchmark tests but how
well the teacher qualifies on the shooting range. It must really hurt to be that fuggen stupid.


Bucky

(54,065 posts)
15. I'm a teacher. Today was stressful. I'm glad I wasn't armed.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:02 PM
Dec 2012

It's just a terrible idea. I don't want a bunch of stressed out English majors, fresh off of teaching Moby Dick to start getting idle thoughts when their 3rd period class starts getting out of hand.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
20. The Pearl, MS shooting was stopped by an armed teacher
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:20 PM
Dec 2012

After two deaths. The shooter had wanted a lot more.

(No, I don't support "arming teachers", let alone students, before you ask.)

reflection

(6,286 posts)
21. I hear you and understand.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:22 PM
Dec 2012

And I realize you are not advocating for that, but I think if we had the ability to arm all teachers and then somehow quantify the number of lives saved vs. the number lost due to the consequences of it, the numbers would lean heavily to the latter.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
23. I agree
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:25 PM
Dec 2012

But personally this is still to raw for me to do an objective risk analysis. Maybe I'll have an idea in a few days

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