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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSeriously, how many lives have been saved by assault weapons since the ban was lifted?
Has anyone ever defended themselves effectively with an assault weapon in a way that a simple handgun wouldn't have sufficed?
So what is the sane, rational argument to make them legal? (Spare me your purist 2nd Amendment Rights crap.)
In the end, isn't the psychological devastation of an entire country after a tragedy like this a damn good reason to ban them? What's that worth? Does the NRA have stats on that? I didn't think so. We are all psychologically suffering from this--what about protecting us?
IF the NRA sells guns for our protection.. BAN assault weapons.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Im not in favor of just passing random laws because it sounds like something is being accomplished.
Vast majority of shootings are not involving assault weapons. You can accomplish what this school shooter did with a couple shotguns and a few glocks.
Gun violence is a very complicated issue in this country. The assault weapons ban will accomplish absolutely nothing.
Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)How many must die before we take action?
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Saying you can stop or reduce violence by taking away guns is like saying you can reduce obesity by taking away the silverware.
The problem is ingrained in our society and our culture. We have a violent society in America. We have violence everywhere we look. Banning weapons won't change that.
Squinch
(51,004 posts)Your argument is moronic.
And dear, when you use the "spoons don't make you fat" argument, you tip your hand about where you get your news.
The problem is ingrained in our gun culture. Give it up.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)We never had violence in civilization before guns were invented.
Squinch
(51,004 posts)of a single psycho going into a school and slaughtering a bunch of babies.
To have violence like that, where one psycho decides to take out as many people as he can, you need a gun or an explosive. And most of them choose guns.
Your arguments are hollow and ridiculous and offensive and grotesque in light of what happened today. And what happened on countless days before this.
Now talk about the spoons again. And listen to yourself. And wonder why you can stand to allow yourself to spout such imbecilic nonsense.
Last Stand
(472 posts)What constructive purpose do they serve?
We know all too well what kind of DEstructive purpose they serve.
former-republican
(2,163 posts)They are the most regulated weapon sold in the country.
As far as I know only one incident of a homicide has been committed with an assault weapon in the last 30 years or so.
I should add a legally bought one.
justanidea
(291 posts)Any magazines over 10 rounds were banned. And the typical simple handgun holds between 12 and 17. The only guns with less are revolvers and tiny pocket guns.
So if anyone has used a standard full sized handgun to defend themselves since 2004, the answer to your question is yes. People have defended themselves.
Oh and assault weapons were still legal during the ban
former-republican
(2,163 posts)"Oh and assault weapons were still legal during the ban"
Recursion
(56,582 posts)former-republican
(2,163 posts)It's feel good stuff to their constituents instead of addressing the real problems in crimes in America.
You still have members here thinking AR15's are automatics.
You have members that think having only a revolver would stop mass murder.
Jersey Devil
(9,874 posts)I and several others here have read that the assault rifle was actually found in the shooter's car after the shooting was over.
Zax2me
(2,515 posts)But I will not post, those curious can search themselves.
Last Stand
(472 posts)I'll answer.
No fucken way.
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former-republican
(2,163 posts)Assault weapon (semi-automatic) refers primarily (but not exclusively) to firearms that possess the cosmetic features of an assault rifle (which are fully-automatic). Actually possessing the operational features, such as 'full-auto', is not required for classification as an assault weapon; merely the possession of cosmetic features is enough to warrant such classification as an assault weapon