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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts) Sat Dec 15, 2012, 09:43 PM Dec 2012

It's time for the U.S. to end ALL hostilities against Cuba and Venezuela.

The Cold War is over. Those countries have the right to govern themselves as they wish. It's not our place, and never has been our place, to try to dictate the economic policies or trade policies(and that's all that this is about, nobody in the administration gives a damn about "human rights" and none of them ever did).

It's time for our leaders to accept, JUST FOR ONCE, that they're not going to get their way in Latin America...and that Latin American countries have the right to put meeting human needs before private profit even if our country doesn't.

And normalizing relations is the best possible chance there is to end anything dictatorial in the countries we are currently hassling in the hemisphere.

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It's time for the U.S. to end ALL hostilities against Cuba and Venezuela. (Original Post) Ken Burch Dec 2012 OP

It should be done, but not until the next congress takes over /nt still_one Dec 2012 #1

Well, ok, I guess it can wait until January. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #3

I know it seems like a small point, and even though I believe the president can do it without still_one Dec 2012 #4

OK. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #8

Yeah, it should be. PDJane Dec 2012 #2

Not until the White House tells us the rum is safe to drink there, and Fidel and Hugo are gone. leveymg Dec 2012 #5

K&R n/t Joe Shlabotnik Dec 2012 #6

US Latin American policy has been continuous since the founding of this country. Puregonzo1188 Dec 2012 #7

That doesn't mean it can't EVER change. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #9

still_one

(92,219 posts)

1. It should be done, but not until the next congress takes over /nt

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 09:45 PM

Dec 2012

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)

3. Well, ok, I guess it can wait until January.

Reply to still_one (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 09:51 PM

Dec 2012

Still...

still_one

(92,219 posts)

4. I know it seems like a small point, and even though I believe the president can do it without

Reply to Ken Burch (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 09:55 PM

Dec 2012

congress, I think it is better to get a congress more on our side

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)

8. OK.

Reply to still_one (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:21 PM

Dec 2012

So it can start in January then. There are a lot of things that can be done by executive order.

PDJane

(10,103 posts)

2. Yeah, it should be.

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 09:50 PM

Dec 2012

I'm not holding my breath.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)

5. Not until the White House tells us the rum is safe to drink there, and Fidel and Hugo are gone.

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:30 PM

Dec 2012

Most people are so afraid to transgress without permission.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)

6. K&R n/t

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:19 PM

Dec 2012

Puregonzo1188

(1,948 posts)

7. US Latin American policy has been continuous since the founding of this country.

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:20 PM

Dec 2012

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)

9. That doesn't mean it can't EVER change.

Reply to Puregonzo1188 (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:24 PM

Dec 2012

The Monroe Doctrine is obsolete, and we have no right to treat Latin America as "OUR sphere of influence". Latin America exists, first and foremost, for the people who actually live there, and first and foremost for the poorest of the poor there. After they are given what they need(or, more properly, what should always have been considered theirs is restored to them)the upper classes, the U.S. and the rest of the world can share what's left.

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