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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 05:27 AM Dec 2012

Don’t Be Afraid, Mr. President -- You Can Take on the Gun Lobby

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/dont-be-afraid-mr-president-you-can-take-gun-lobby


A grieving President Barack Obama wiped away tears and struggled to compose himself Friday as he mourned the dead in the Connecticut school shooting.
Photo Credit: AFP


There’s no disputing that the Democratic Party has regressed dramatically on the issue of gun violence over the past two decades. When a shooting rampage on the Long Island Railroad killed six people and injured 19 others in December 1993, Bill Clinton responded immediately by calling for specific legislative action to prevent future tragedies. Contrast that with the response of White House Press Secretary Jay Carney on Friday to a question about whether the carnage in Connecticut might prompt President Obama to pursue gun control measures. “I’m sure there will be another day for discussion of the usual Washington policy debates,” Carney said, “but I don’t think today is that day.”

It can be hard to remember now, but well into the 1990s, national Democrats proudly associated themselves with gun control, championing laws that restricted access to deadly weapons. Under Clinton, the Brady Bill, which mandated a five-day waiting period for the purchase of handgun, was passed, and so was a ban on assault weapons. The 1996 Democratic Convention that nominated Clinton for a second term featured Jim and Sarah Brady as primetime speakers.

The years since then, however, have been marked by a steady and thus far enduring Democratic retreat on the issue, with the Second Amendment crowd now largely dictating the terms of public discussion and Democrats mainly trying to avoid their wrath. Consider Obama’s record on guns, which includes one achievement : a law making it easier to carry concealed weapons in national parks.

While the violent crime rate that fed the gun control zeal of the ’90s is much lower today, horrifying mass shootings seem to be on the rise. Six of the 12 deadliest sprees in American history have taken place just since 2007. In his own remarks Friday, delivered a few hours after Carney’s, Obama seemed to hint that the latest deadly outburst might actually shake him and his party from their defensive crouch on guns. “[W]e’re going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of politics,” the president said.
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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
2. while i appreciate the sentiment -- i'm personally of the opinion
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 05:34 AM
Dec 2012

that democrats don't need republicans for anything.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
4. He is a lifetime liberal democrat who wanted to win an election.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 05:46 AM
Dec 2012

but homeland security is not a parisan issue anyhow.

ask Richard Clarke, whom liberals and democrats all followed and praised when he spoke out agaisnt the Bush's.

we are not electing a president or any election anyhow. HS is a cabinet post.

Thought the aim was to get the very best there is for that particular issue.

But don't be blinded by his role as mayor.

Think of his life as a private person.
sometimes a position and a person are not 100% mutual.

(in reverse- Democrats love Thomas Jefferson. In private, he loved slaves(pun intended).
and abused them and made a mockery of his words he himself wrote.

dealing in absolutes leads to zero.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
6. ok -- i was nice -- but i gotta tell ya -- bloomberg is a snake.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 05:53 AM
Dec 2012

and that whole 'absolutes' pretend pragmatic thinking is a bunch of horse shit designed to fool rubes.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
8. you are entitled to your position. But the issue is Mike Bloomberg can solve the gun problem
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 06:09 AM
Dec 2012

or just wait for the next event to happen tomorrow, next week, next month

I don't know anyone more suited, but like Sen. Bob Menendez is well suited to tackle the immigration citizenship/amnesty situation now that he shall be head of the Foreign affairs committee, if you know another name, instead of Mr. Bloomberg, feel free to list them.

and Mike can continue with his own super Pac funding any/all candidate no matter who that will back his position on guns

Mike is in an unique position-having been mayor for 10 years and attending one funeral after another

and President Obama is now rid of his shackles in being a candidate ever again, so he is free to do what he wants
(as Kris Kristofferson wrote, and unfortunately libertarians take it the wrong way but it is open to interpretation
"freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose".

and freedom from running in another election is one freedom
freedom a candidate knows they can be against the NRA now as they have an Equalizer super pac against the NRA to have their back is another freedom

and feel free to list another perfect name for the job.

I can't think of any

(in fact
Mike Bloomberg as HS chief
equals the same as
Elizabeth Warren as head of the Banking Committee

you want the best person for a specific job

Mike Bloomberg=Elizabeth Warren
though alas, I am sure some here will not see that viewpoint in their blindness to the position at hand.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
3. in the past he has been silent on doing anything after mass shootings
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 05:37 AM
Dec 2012

It was great to finally hear him address taking action after this one.

red dog 1

(27,820 posts)
10. I agree, but talking about taking action and taking action are 2 different things
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 06:13 PM
Dec 2012

From the OP:
"Consider Obama's record on guns, which includes one achievement: a law making it easier to carry concealed weapons in national parks."

Reinstating the Assault Weapons Ban would be a good first step, and I think the American people would support such a move.
(I realize that an assault weapons ban would have done nothing to prevent Friday's tragedy)

Also from the OP:
In his own remarks Friday, Obama seemed to hint that the latest deadly outburst might actually shake him and his party from their defensive crouch on guns
"We're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of politics," the president said.

Actions speak louder than words, but I'm hopeful that the President will, indeed "take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this."


Meanwhile, those of us who want to do something now can donate to the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

http://www.bradycampaign.org/

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
7. I hope he is smart enough to stay
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 06:07 AM
Dec 2012

away from the gun issue. the next president can take up the issue. if president Obama signed into law any take of major gun ban one of those gun nuts would kill him.

I personally think he's done enough for his country that he doesn't need to put a bullseye on his head.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
9. Gun control has become a losing issue for Democrats.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:23 AM
Dec 2012

That's why many in the party have avoided the issue. The President would be wise to do the same.

-Laelth

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