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bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 12:24 AM Jan 2012

Texas would be on the table if Newt was the nominee

PPP has Obama up 47%-45% over Newt in Texas. Mind you, if Obama chooses to not campaign there, I'm sure he'll lose it. He'd have to fight hard for it, and be willing to spend some money and do some visits (and NOT just to Austin, either).

The poll:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_TX_0118.pdf

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Texas would be on the table if Newt was the nominee (Original Post) bluestateguy Jan 2012 OP
Not Very Likely lacrew Jan 2012 #1
If Newt is the nominee, it will be a historic landslide. HuckleB Jan 2012 #2
Whereas Romney, on the other hand, will merely be a... Eid Ma Clack Shaw Jan 2012 #3
It'll probably be over before the Texas primary in April tammywammy Jan 2012 #4
When was the last time Texas voted for a Democratic president? HopeHoops Jan 2012 #5
Looks like Carter in 1976. n/t BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #7
Carter - 1976 blogslut Jan 2012 #8
Carter. Carter? Whoa, Carter? HopeHoops Jan 2012 #9
Here you go blogslut Jan 2012 #10
Weird. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #11
Carter WAS a southerner and BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #14
Because, unlike what you read on this board, the Southern Fawke Em Jan 2012 #12
Well, fascism does best when it owns the media. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #13
He campaigned in TX for 2008. He came to Dallas... Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #6
 

lacrew

(283 posts)
1. Not Very Likely
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 12:51 AM
Jan 2012

Newt probably has never even run a tv ad in Texas...he will, and the matchup poll will become more meaningful. Gingrich will win the primary there, and will immediately poll 10 points ahead of Obama. I'm sure Obama will run a campaign there....but he will devote time and resources to much more likely wins.

Eid Ma Clack Shaw

(490 posts)
3. Whereas Romney, on the other hand, will merely be a...
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 12:53 AM
Jan 2012

landslide. A little bit better / worse than 2008, but in the same area.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
4. It'll probably be over before the Texas primary in April
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 12:58 AM
Jan 2012

If the interim redistricting maps aren't settled soon the primary could move again.

blogslut

(38,017 posts)
8. Carter - 1976
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 11:01 AM
Jan 2012

However, I think this year might be different. In my opinion, Romney will undoubtedly be the GOP candidate and there will be swarms of dejected Texas conservatives who will stay home in November.

Remember, it was not John McCain who won the 2008 TX GOP primary, it was Huckabee. Our wingnuts aren't fond of perceived moderates.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
9. Carter. Carter? Whoa, Carter?
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 11:10 AM
Jan 2012

Well knock me down and fuck me sideways. I didn't look it up, but got two replies saying that (so I'll assume you're right). WTF was up with that? Weird.

blogslut

(38,017 posts)
10. Here you go
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 11:15 AM
Jan 2012
http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/historical/presidential.shtml

Note the comparison of republican turnout 2004-to-2008. Kerry lost by almost two million. Obama lost by less than one million. Texas wingnuts did not like McCain. They will not like Mitt Romney.

BumRushDaShow

(129,492 posts)
14. Carter WAS a southerner and
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 12:00 PM
Jan 2012

note that back then, Mr. Texas Jim Wright (gosh I had forgotten about that guy) was the House Majority Leader during Carter's first term (and he eventually became Speaker).

Before that, TX had voted Democrat in the 1968 election probably as a nod to the "native son" Texan Johnson.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
12. Because, unlike what you read on this board, the Southern
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jan 2012

Strategy didn't work.

The South voted for Clinton (maybe not Texas, but many Southern states did).

The South didn't go GOP until 1994. So, if it took 20+ years to work, the Southern Strategy wasn't very effective, was it? Personally, I think it was the rise of Faux News that worked on the South - not Nixon.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
6. He campaigned in TX for 2008. He came to Dallas...
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 10:52 AM
Jan 2012

and I think he also went elsewhere. He got some big money from TX. He won Dallas County in the GE.

TX has a large minority population, which votes primarily Democratic, although they are concentrated in a few areas. However, the Republican TX legislature has just redrawn the districts to spread out the minority populations, so Democrats won't win districts. It's in the Courts right now, so we'll see. I suspect they'll win. That's one of the consequences for a party being in power...ability to redraw districts in weird, nonsensical ways purely for political gain.

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