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Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 10:43 AM Dec 2012

MSM coverage is even worse than usual. Was Nancy Lanza a teacher at the school or not?

Minor point ... in view of the scope of the tragedy.... but it seems to me MSM/police would at least be able to determine this definitively by now.

ASK the surviving staff .


And if the answer is "no"... what was the shooter's "connection to the school"?

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MSM coverage is even worse than usual. Was Nancy Lanza a teacher at the school or not? (Original Post) Smarmie Doofus Dec 2012 OP
I thought it was confirmed he had gone to the school as a kid? (nt) Recursion Dec 2012 #1
No, she wasn't a teacher at the school and... DonViejo Dec 2012 #2
Adam Lanza was not involved in an earlier altercation. Lasher Dec 2012 #4
When I heard that story I couldn't understand why there was no security at the school the next day proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #9
I read the Wikipedia article Lasher Dec 2012 #11
Amazing. Better information there than anywhere. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #13
I have often found this to be the case Lasher Dec 2012 #19
Good,clear, lean, spare and ( I hope) more or less factual account. Thanks. n/t Smarmie Doofus Dec 2012 #29
And replete with supporting links. Lasher Dec 2012 #34
Thanks for the correction, Lasher! Much appreciated. n/t DonViejo Dec 2012 #23
No. Lasher Dec 2012 #3
There are reports there he had an altercation there the day before ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #5
All they have to do is ASK THE STAFF. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2012 #7
They've been unusually quiet. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #10
Oh. Great. Jesus. Now ed bureaucracy is involved? Smarmie Doofus Dec 2012 #12
Makes sense to me. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #14
Because 20 babies under their direct care were slaughtered by a rabid animal?? retread Dec 2012 #16
They don't want to lose their jobs proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #20
So Sorry The School System Isn't Meeting Your High Standards. Paladin Dec 2012 #17
Not the staff, no. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #21
Families of the deceased have asked the press to respect their privacy. Lasher Dec 2012 #37
No idea what you're talking about. Rephrase it and I'll "give it some thought." n/t Smarmie Doofus Dec 2012 #25
How would that answer if she had worked there in the past? jberryhill Dec 2012 #27
Not, at least that is my understanding at this arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #6
Adam Lanza may have attended the school or at least knew a lot about it. Jennicut Dec 2012 #8
He did attend as a child and then attended Newtown High TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #18
Sounds like he was a kid with a disability. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #22
This article answers your question. Also, Adam was home schooled. Coyotl Dec 2012 #15
That helps. Thanks. Re. Home schooling: yes and no, it would appear. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2012 #26
Home schooled? Uhmmmm... jberryhill Dec 2012 #28
I think he was homeschool after 10th grade. Jennicut Dec 2012 #31
Many home schooled kids participate in regular school activities mentalsolstice Dec 2012 #33
I'm about to pull out my tin foil hat tawadi Dec 2012 #24
Opertive question is, Wellstone ruled Dec 2012 #30
The fact is her name wasn't on the staff roster at the website duffyduff Dec 2012 #32
They still don't know. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #35
All one has to do is look at the staff roster duffyduff Dec 2012 #38
Two of the dead teachers were not in the roster either. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #39
They weren't teachers, that's why duffyduff Dec 2012 #40
Very strange. They've obviously interviewed the ex-husband TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #36
These idiots (networks) are all tripping over each other to get the scoop slutticus Dec 2012 #41

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
2. No, she wasn't a teacher at the school and...
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 10:50 AM
Dec 2012

there was a report in an OP the shooter had attended that school. There's also an OP reporting the shooter had a confrontation with four officials at the school a day or two before the shooting. Three of the four officials were killed.

Lasher

(27,597 posts)
4. Adam Lanza was not involved in an earlier altercation.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 10:57 AM
Dec 2012
Earlier reports that the suspected shooter, Adam Lanza, had an altercation with four adults at the school on Thursday have been investigated and are not accurate, according to a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation.

Lt. J. Paul Vance of the Connecticut State Police noted in a news conference Saturday that he knew of no reports about Lanza being involved in any altercations at the school.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/15/children-and-adults-gunned-down-in-connecticut-school-massacre/

There is much confusion regarding this tragedy.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
9. When I heard that story I couldn't understand why there was no security at the school the next day
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:18 AM
Dec 2012

That would be SOP at any school. A crazed person comes to a school one day, you have security there for a few days afterwards.

Lasher

(27,597 posts)
11. I read the Wikipedia article
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:25 AM
Dec 2012

It is very helpful in sorting through the misinformation. I linked it downthread but here it is again:

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting

Lasher

(27,597 posts)
34. And replete with supporting links.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:22 PM
Dec 2012

This can help us decide for ourselves how factual and unbiased the article is.

Lasher

(27,597 posts)
3. No.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 10:52 AM
Dec 2012

There was no connection between Nancy Lanza and the school. Adam Lanza had no known connection either, except that he might have attended there when he was younger.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
5. There are reports there he had an altercation there the day before
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:05 AM
Dec 2012

You are right about commenting how FUBAR the media has been on this one

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
7. All they have to do is ASK THE STAFF.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:12 AM
Dec 2012

Either she worked there or she didn't work there.

Either the staff knew her or did NOT know her.


This ( part of it, anyway) is not complicated.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
10. They've been unusually quiet.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:21 AM
Dec 2012

I've seen a couple interviewed about the shooting. But if that school had 600 kids, there had to have been 30 or 40 on staff. The district must have clamped down pretty hard on media requests.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
12. Oh. Great. Jesus. Now ed bureaucracy is involved?
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:33 AM
Dec 2012

Are you saying people are afraid to answer that simple question for fear of repercussions from higher-ups?

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
14. Makes sense to me.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:42 AM
Dec 2012

What other reason could there be for 30+ people to NOT be talking to the media? And you know they're being deluged with requests. I would imagine some are traumatized and don't want to talk to the media. But I also know there are likely to be several who would gladly do so, and probably want to.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
20. They don't want to lose their jobs
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:53 PM
Dec 2012

School districts are notoriously strict about employees talking to the media. I would imagine that some of the staff members at this school are not willing to talk to reporters but I also think several would probably willingly do so, thinking it may help. But their employer has told them not to do so.

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
17. So Sorry The School System Isn't Meeting Your High Standards.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:08 PM
Dec 2012

Do you think that---just speculating, now---those educators may have a considerable amount of duties to attend to right now and in upcoming days, duties which are traumatic and gut-wrenchingly difficult in nature? Give that some thought.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
21. Not the staff, no.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:55 PM
Dec 2012

School district administrators are probably overwhelmed. But the teachers and other staff - no. What do you think they would be doing?

Lasher

(27,597 posts)
37. Families of the deceased have asked the press to respect their privacy.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:47 PM
Dec 2012

The school staff is similarly grieving. It's not the same thing, but I think this is a legitimate factor.

Another thing is, there are good reasons for any organization to channel information through a spokesperson at a time like this. I think you make a good point, though.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
27. How would that answer if she had worked there in the past?
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:02 PM
Dec 2012

Do you know all former employees of your present employer?

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
8. Adam Lanza may have attended the school or at least knew a lot about it.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:15 AM
Dec 2012

My husband's best friend grew up in Newtown and did not attend Sandy Hook but played some sports games there as a kid. Newtown is not that big. There was only 4 elementary schools there.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
18. He did attend as a child and then attended Newtown High
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:28 PM
Dec 2012

According to the mother's ex-sister-in-law, she had some kind of issue with the school board about the school's plans for him (no idea what's meant by that) and pulled him out of school to home school him sometime around the 10th grade. The ex-sister-in-law also said that at some time she worked at the school as a classroom aide.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
22. Sounds like he was a kid with a disability.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:58 PM
Dec 2012

Parents sometimes disagree with programming recommendations made by the school for kids with disabilities. I'm a special ed teacher and the kids I work with are much more likely to be homeschooled than the kids without disabilities. At least that's typical where I teach. I'm not sure about CT.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
15. This article answers your question. Also, Adam was home schooled.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:51 AM
Dec 2012
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/15/us/connecticut-lanza-family-profile/index.html
Adam Lanza's family: Mom liked parlor games, guns; dad, a tax exec, remarried
By Michael Martinez and David Ariosto, CNN Dec 16, 2012

Marsha Lanza, an aunt to Adam Lanza, described him ... "He was definitely the challenge of the family in that house. .....

She said Adam Lanza's mother "battled" with the school board and ended up having her son home-schooled. ...

Neighbor Gina McDade said Nancy Lanza was a "stay-at-home mom" and not a teacher or part-time employee of Sandy Hook Elementary, as some media reports stated.

.... The friend said Nancy was devoted to her sons and had been "caring for Adam," but would not provide further details. ....


 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
26. That helps. Thanks. Re. Home schooling: yes and no, it would appear.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:50 PM
Dec 2012

Yesterday's NY Times had descriptions provided by HS classmates.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
28. Home schooled? Uhmmmm...
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:08 PM
Dec 2012

He's third from the right in this high school yearbook picture.


That's a big home school.

mentalsolstice

(4,461 posts)
33. Many home schooled kids participate in regular school activities
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:19 PM
Dec 2012

In fact it is encouraged by most public school districts, to prevent kids from being too isolated.

tawadi

(2,110 posts)
24. I'm about to pull out my tin foil hat
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:44 PM
Dec 2012

Something smells fishy. I know the mother had "problems" with the school board. So much so that she home schooled her son (the shooter). The reporters need to dig deeper into this. Something is being covered up.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
30. Opertive question is,
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:09 PM
Dec 2012

first we need a investigative reporter. The real back story is our MEDIA's lack of reporting skill sets. Notice the perfect make-up and blow-combed hair styles. Proper clothing color balance. Right backdrop or staging. When the story broke,CNN and some backwater hack newspaper wanted the feed and nothing more,just through shit to the public. What a shame we came this far and the facts are still made from whole cloth of YELLOW JOURNALISM.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
32. The fact is her name wasn't on the staff roster at the website
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:43 PM
Dec 2012

Last edited Sun Dec 16, 2012, 05:00 PM - Edit history (1)

although the website was probably outdated for this school year because a couple of the slain teachers were not mentioned on there.

Edit: The website appears to be current at the time of the shootings. To recap from the best of my knowledge: A principal (Dawn Hocksprung), a school psychologist (Mary Sherlach), two teacher assistants (Rachel Davino and Anne Marie Murphy), one teacher (Victoria Soto), and one permanent substitute teacher (Lauren Rousseau) were the adult victims at Sandy Hook Elementary School, not counting the killer himself.


Nancy Lanza wasn't on any staff roster and didn't have to work anyway.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
35. They still don't know.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:24 PM
Dec 2012

I've covered a few chaotic scenes, but 72 hours on...something is raising my cackles. First 36 hours, sure. I get it.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
38. All one has to do is look at the staff roster
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 05:01 PM
Dec 2012

Nancy Lanza was never on it, so she was not a teacher there.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
40. They weren't teachers, that's why
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 05:25 PM
Dec 2012

Read my post upthread. Two were teacher assistants, and many school websites don't list teacher aides or assistants on their websites. Often, they are part-time classified employees.

Another one was a permanent substitute teacher. Same thing. The regular teacher was listed.

Lanza wasn't a teacher, period.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
36. Very strange. They've obviously interviewed the ex-husband
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:27 PM
Dec 2012

and son by now, other family members. Why do none of them seem to know what this woman did with herself, beyond buy guns and hire a landscaper?

slutticus

(3,428 posts)
41. These idiots (networks) are all tripping over each other to get the scoop
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 05:26 PM
Dec 2012

and in the process end up embarrassing themselves (actually no, they are beyond shame)

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