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GOD IN SCHOOLS IS THE ANSWER? Really? (Here we go again!) (Original Post) napkinz Dec 2012 OP
And yet there have been killings in churches. GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #1
God can't wield any power even in his own places of worship ... napkinz Dec 2012 #8
In response to the "God taken out of schools" meme: madmom Dec 2012 #2
yeah, that one shut up a Facebook friend who posted the "god in schools" one ibegurpard Dec 2012 #3
LOL deutsey Dec 2012 #20
If God is everywhere, as they claim, then he's already in the schools napkinz Dec 2012 #21
Some 'god'. Shadowflash Dec 2012 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Horse with no Name Dec 2012 #5
My question is ... napkinz Dec 2012 #7
Here you go.. madmom Dec 2012 #10
Yeah, worked really well to help those little Amish girls in Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania in 2006. phylny Dec 2012 #13
deflection via strawman argument salin Dec 2012 #6
This is the response: Zoeisright Dec 2012 #9
thank you napkinz Dec 2012 #19
"God" isn't allowed in schools? NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #11
George Carlin on God ... napkinz Dec 2012 #14
Frank Zappa on God Initech Dec 2012 #16
John Lennon on God napkinz Dec 2012 #15
STUPID.... Tippy Dec 2012 #12
and here comes Yuckabee napkinz Dec 2012 #17
with thanks to riqster napkinz Dec 2012 #18
kick napkinz Dec 2012 #22
Epicurus said it best. hifiguy Dec 2012 #23

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
8. God can't wield any power even in his own places of worship ...
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:36 PM
Dec 2012
Newtown Church Evacuated

Sunday, Dec 16, 2012

A noon mass was being held at St. Rose of Lima Church

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Newtown-Church-Evactuated-183704271.html


madmom

(9,681 posts)
2. In response to the "God taken out of schools" meme:
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:44 PM
Dec 2012

Dear God,
Why do you allow so many priests to sexually abuse children in your churches and schools?
Signed,
A Concerned Child

Dear Concerned Child,
Because I don't exist.
Signed,
Your imaginary friend, God.



This was posted by a friend when that meme popped up on his facebook page.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
21. If God is everywhere, as they claim, then he's already in the schools
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:31 PM
Dec 2012

So he's obviously asleep on the job.









Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
4. Some 'god'.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:33 PM
Dec 2012

Impotent in the face of the school board.

If there is a 'god', the truth is that an all-loving, all-knowing and all-powerful 'god' either could not stop this, allowed it to happen or directly caused it.

In either case, certainly NOT a god worth worshiping.

Response to napkinz (Original post)

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
7. My question is ...
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:58 PM
Dec 2012

Is God that weak that mere mortals can keep him out of schools ... or any place for that matter?



phylny

(8,380 posts)
13. Yeah, worked really well to help those little Amish girls in Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania in 2006.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:54 PM
Dec 2012

If I'm not mistaken, God is allowed in the classrooms there.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
11. "God" isn't allowed in schools?
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:44 PM
Dec 2012

For an omnipotent, omniscient being, this god sure seems pretty weak.

Or perhaps their god is a petty, vindictive piece of shit that gets mad if it doesn't hear its name all day, every day, so it then allows these things. That's what they're really saying.

Besides, what about shootings and bombings at churches? What about tornados and hurricanes in the most religious areas of the country?

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
17. and here comes Yuckabee
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:09 PM
Dec 2012
Huckabee Says Connecticut School Massacre Occurred Because We ‘Removed God From Our Schools’

By Igor Volsky

HUCKABEE: Well, you know, it’s an interesting thing. We ask why there is violence in our schools, but we’ve systematically removed God from our schools. Should we be so surprised that schools would become a place of carnage because we’ve made it a palce where we don’t want to talk about eternity, life, what responsibility means, accountability? That we’re not just going to have to be accountable to the police, if they catch us. But one day, we will stand before a Holy God in judgment. If we don’t believe that, then we don’t fear that.

Watch it:





http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/12/14/1339971/huckabee-says-connecticut-school-massacre-occurred-because-we-removed-god-from-our-schools/?mobile=nc









napkinz

(17,199 posts)
18. with thanks to riqster
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 05:26 PM
Dec 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021998638 posted by riqster


Thought for Your Sunday: If God is Omnipotent…

December 16, 2012 //0then He would not be barred from school buildings because of the quantity of teacher-led prayers therein: He would be there anyway.

And if God’s love lasts forever, He wouldn’t bail out on us because we failed to tattoo the Ten Commandments on the foreheads of each and every student: He would be there anyway.

Mr. Blunt and Cranky was raised to believe these things, and is sure most other People of the Book were as well. So when he sees stupid T-Shirts like this one:



The Cranky One gets even crankier. Because these people seem to think we mortals can order God about. Like, whaaaaaat? Plus, the shirt-makers did not capitalize “You”. Idiots.

We are not more powerful than God, and cannot “allow Him in schools”. Either God is omnipotent, omniscient, and eternal, or He isn’t. You can’t have it both ways.

Mr. B & C

http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2012/12/16/thought-for-your-sunday-if-god-is-omnipotent/




 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
23. Epicurus said it best.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:59 PM
Dec 2012

Unless it was Lactantius who misattributed it to Epicurus:

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

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