whats more important to these people: their precious guns or the fact that 18 little kids were killed.

Thank you for speaking up!

I'd bet those people probably have "I'm the NRA" stickers on their cars, too.
And yes. people like them ARE the NRA

I haven't met a righty yet who doesn't end up yelling to try and get their (inane) point across. Good for you for pointing out the truth.
One more thing, I have been hunting in the past and refused to touch alcohol until after the days activities were done. An awful lot of people drink while hunting and that leads to bad things. I wonder if the guy you encountered at breakfast was drunk? Or just stupid?

Really? Twenty children slaughtered in three minutes and YOU'RE the victim? Wow. You're amazingly self-involved.

"If gun organizations can't get their shit together you don't deserve to own them. Gun ownership comes with responsibility so take it."

I'm ambivalent about your story.

While it's true those people were assholes, your counter-attack cost the business (who provably had to throw out some, if not all, of their partially-prepared orders) an amount equal to 4 hours of your server's salary.

So when you are talking about responsibility, remember free speech has it too.. Choose your battlegrounds wisely.

shut someone up who expressed their opinion. So no one should ever have an opinion except loudmouths. How is it the OPs responsibility if these people could not tolerate being called on their crap?

everyone has their extremist moments, where their view is more-important than the collateral damage.

As is the case with the gun tragedy that inspired the current discussions, all I am saying is there has to ne a better way to counter thses assholes than by being a bigger asshole.

(and no, I am not calling the OP an asshole)

they tend to be impervious to irony.

One of the problems with any group of people, no matter how good they are at heart, is that they have certain blind spots.

For the record, I believe those who are currently flaming me are well-meaning people.

Also, for the record, I did not say that nothing should ever be done about these type of bullies (i.e. the loudmouth assholes at the table adjacent to the OP) ever. Nor did I say that nothing should be done to combat their fetish towards guns.

What I did say was "choose your battleground wisely."

The OP was lucky that these loudmouths were just loudmouths. In the current climate, I am not sure how wise it is to directly confront a gun nut, when emotions are high on both sides. It is, however time to confront our elected officials to get off their collective fat asses and do something (I have no idea what; I'm just a former kindergarten teacher turned former restauranteur).


Also, for the record, I have a personal disdain for guns that goes back over twenty years, when a gang member walked onto my niece's high school and shot a rival gang member who was standing close-enough to my niece that she saw the flash and the bullet. Fortunately, back then, they only shot at the person they had the grudge over and not all the bystanders.

that is overwhelmingly law-abiding and not the primary source of criminals, does you a bit of a dis-service.

I don't defend their idiocy, but your implied concern for their reaction is misplaced.

Coming on DU to talk about but letting the comments in person in public stand?

If the nuts are allowed their speech in public and there just happens to be a congress person in a booth a few rows down, what impression will that legislator take back to the people's house?

Someone says fucked up shit in public they need to be called on it. Every time. If they walk out fine, they should go back under the rock from which they slithered.

more likely, if it's worth 4 hours of the server's salary ... then it's overpriced.

Then again, the "wasted food" probably was eaten by the "server" and cook(s) ... generally, if a place gets "stiffed" by the "patron", the place would likely take action against the "patron". In this case, the patrons didn't just walk out without warning, they left after canceling. Likely, they didn't get the prep past the soup or salad portion.

it would be easy to have one meal be worth four hours of a server's salary. And I've waited in tables in restaurants over the years where if a customer refused to pay it came out of your pay.

Kind of like an NRA argument, now that I think of it . . .

the Gunners were too Chicken to stay with their loud Pres Obama Lying Mouths.

The gun nutters would have spoiled my appetite and I would have left too.
I would have asked for my meal to go.

And I would not have returned.

I would imagine they didn't pay for their coffee, either.

Possibly one of the dumbest things I've read on DU in the last hour or so.

I'm surrounded by the these idiots at work. They think that their rights to bear arms trumps any other right enumerated in the Constitution.

I'm ashamed to admit that I don't even try any longer...

We showed the world how little class we have.

http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/525/26933/Randy-Blythe-Disgusted-By-Audience-In-Oregon#.UM4ShHdBmSo

Peoples right to own a gun end when public safety is threatened.

down pat. I don't know what the Oregonian is saying these days about Obama and I don't watch FoxNews, so I don't know for sure, but it seems possible this is where they are being fed those talking points. I don't know how we fight this other than do what you did and straighten them out. I haven't read the Oregonian since the Clinton days, which is the last time I visited Oregon, so I don't know if they are ginning up this impeach Obama rhetoric. If they are, then LTTE by liberals telling them they are full of it seem to be in order until they stop printing that trash.

After all, he's caused paranoid lunatics around the country to purchase guns in droves, then they buy the bullshit propaganda being spewed by the NRA that Obama is somehow going to take their precious guns away. Right.

Imagine all the shit I'd have to deal with standing among them. The worst part? Sometimes, stupid is contagious.

politics doesn't come up but even yesterday he went off saying Mike Huckabee is dead right. Really? then why do most murders happen in the USA. a supposed Christian nation?? Course this is a question satan would ask. without being asked.... But if Mike's bringing it up.. he's at fault for it. and many murders happen in the south. Some in the name of God.

Perhaps those mass shootings would have been prevented with more prayer.

and yes i am being sarcastic. I keep seeing that bs on facebook.

For more than a decade I have been trying to get my step kids to vote. Their answer was that voting doesn't change anything so they won't vote and they really hadn't voted for most of their adult years. Last election, they registered to vote and voted. This was like a tiger changing his stripes to spots. So don't give up.

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I would not have been that polite. Part of me hopes that someone does take their guns away.

Thanks to television, alcohol and the BFEE, people have become so stupid that they no longer realize they have a choice: They can either stand to do something to stop gun violence or they can sit and allow things to continue as they are.

Is that our lame talking points media never blames easy access to guns for any tragedy - it's always something else. The NRA has become such a powerful political entity where to even question their policies is like the worst thing you could ever do. We need to start reducing or even eliminating the NRA's political influence. But nope - dipshits like Huckabee have started toting their usual "we need more prayer in schools" bullshit and people are buying it.

like that, if they had a moment of honest self examination would stick the barrel of their guns in their mouths and pull the trigger. Not much danger of a mass suicide of gun nuts, they are generally delusional chickenshits. They dive deeper into their delusion at every opportunity. What you said to them is probably the nicest most honest thing anybody has said to them in a long while. Who knows....it might start the wheels turning.

Poor boys, they cancelled their orders and left. Awww ...

Good on you for speaking the truth!

& recommend!!

I am glad you called them out.