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Javaman

(62,530 posts)
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:01 PM Dec 2012

Via Rawstory the perfect counter argument...

to the gun nuts who claim that a person with a knife could kill as many people as well...

Newton gunman blasted his way in, says Connecticut Gov. Malloy
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/16/newton-gunman-blasted-his-way-in-says-connecticut-gov-malloy/

The gunman in the Connecticut school massacre that left 20 small children dead blasted his way through a locked glass door, climbed through and proceeded with his killing spree, the state governor said on Sunday.

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last time I checked a knife, no matter its size, could do that.

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Via Rawstory the perfect counter argument... (Original Post) Javaman Dec 2012 OP
You're point? atreides1 Dec 2012 #1
you have a better chance of getting away with those weapons, a gun makes it harder to get away leftyohiolib Dec 2012 #2
First of all, it's 'your' point. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #4
This is quite possibly the dumbest argument sufrommich Dec 2012 #7
Do you think that in the time it took for him to shoot down 26 women and children... cynatnite Dec 2012 #8
wouldn't a sledge hammer also do the same thing? bossy22 Dec 2012 #3
Lies, damned lies & RW NRA talking points. baldguy Dec 2012 #6
? bossy22 Dec 2012 #9
Give it a try and while you are doing that, the people inside the building can call the cops on you Javaman Dec 2012 #10
Another baldguy Dec 2012 #5
nobody was killed. exactly. nt Javaman Dec 2012 #11

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
1. You're point?
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:13 PM
Dec 2012

He could have used his car to get through the doors...if he was determined...and it would seem that by blasting his way through the locked glass door, he was very determined.

He could have killed or wounded as many with a knife, a baseball bat, a tire iron, before the police arrived...it isn't only the weapons, it's the determination of the one wielding those weapons.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
4. First of all, it's 'your' point.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:32 PM
Dec 2012

Not "you are" point.

Secondly, there is no fucking way he could have killed or wounded as many with a knife, a baseball bat, or a tire iron. That is the fucking dumbest thing I have ever read on the internet. It's the weapons, stupid.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
7. This is quite possibly the dumbest argument
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:38 PM
Dec 2012

the gun lovers make. The car could not blast through a classroom of kids, the kids would have to be lined up in the hallway volunteering to get hit. The mass murderer would not be able to take himself out with the car either. Yes, he could have killed with a knife or a baseball bat, of course he would have needed to be in close contact with his victims and able to overcome the many who would come to the defense of those children as opposed to cowardly standing at a door and mowing them down with his gun. Yes, some can get killed,but the carnage caused by guns overshadows baseball bat and knife deaths. Take your stupid "yeah,but" deflections elsewhere.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
8. Do you think that in the time it took for him to shoot down 26 women and children...
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:43 PM
Dec 2012

That he could kill the same amount of women and children with a knife or baseball bat? Think about that before you spew this insane garbage!

bossy22

(3,547 posts)
9. ?
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:46 PM
Dec 2012

I'm a Vol. Fireman and I can tell you it does not take long to get through a locked glass door with a sledge hammer.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
10. Give it a try and while you are doing that, the people inside the building can call the cops on you
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:53 PM
Dec 2012

and if and when you finally get through, most of the building will be on lock down. You would then need your hammer to try and bust open the doors while security and the police are hot on your ass.

nice try but fail.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
5. Another
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:32 PM
Dec 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenpeng_Village_Primary_School_stabbing

"On 14 December 2012 between 7 and 8 a.m. local time, a 36-year-old villager identified as Min Yingjun stabbed 23 people, including 22 children and an elderly woman, in a knife attack at Chenpeng Village Primary School. The school is situated in Wenshu Township of Guangshan County, which is administrated by the city of Xinyang, 800 km south of Beijing, in the Chinese province of Henan. The children targeted by the knifeman are thought likely to be between six and eleven years of age and the attack occurred as the children were arriving for classes."


One real difference between this and Sandy Hook is that a knife was used instead of a gun. Another is that nobody was killed.
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