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Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts) Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:03 PM Dec 2012

We'll Probably Get the Feinstein AWB, Does it Go Far Enough?

WASHINGTON -- In the wake of Friday's mass killing at an elementary school in Connecticut, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Sunday that she plans to introduce an assault weapons ban bill on the first day of the new Congress.

"I'm going to introduce in the Senate, and the same bill will be introduced in the House -- a bill to ban assault weapons," Feinstein said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

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"Who needs these military-style assault weapons? Who needs an ammunition feeding device capable of holding 100 rounds?" Feinstein wrote on her campaign website. "These weapons are not for hunting deer -- they’re for hunting people."

On Sunday Feinstein laid out details of the bill.

"It will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation and the possession, not retroactively, but prospectively," and ban the sale of clips of more than ten bullets, Feinstein said. "The purpose of this bill is to get... weapons of war off the streets."

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/dianne-feinstein-assault-weapons-ban_n_2311477.html

I say we also do big Buy-Back programs and motivate sales with a slow-to-activate complete ban.

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We'll Probably Get the Feinstein AWB, Does it Go Far Enough? (Original Post) Junkdrawer Dec 2012 OP

NO it doesn't. Whole issue needs to be reframed. but 10% of something is better than 100% of nothing graham4anything Dec 2012 #1

What's a "complete ban"? NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #2

I don't think you will even get that bossy22 Dec 2012 #3

An ammo ban? Could you elaborate? nt kelly1mm Dec 2012 #4

an ammunition magazine ban (clips) bossy22 Dec 2012 #6

OK - that makes sense. Thanks! nt kelly1mm Dec 2012 #8

I believe you are being overly optimistic ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #5

No, and not only is this another pointless sop that will achieve nothing of any substance, Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #7

We have to start somewhere. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #9

Seems like a good start Johonny Dec 2012 #10

and in the time it takes to be implemented, people will hoard the items for later sale NightWatcher Dec 2012 #11

I dispute your assumption... brooklynite Dec 2012 #12

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)

1. NO it doesn't. Whole issue needs to be reframed. but 10% of something is better than 100% of nothing

Reply to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:04 PM

Dec 2012

long as we keep moving forward with more 10% all the time

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)

2. What's a "complete ban"?

Reply to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:05 PM

Dec 2012

Probably, any such attempts will drive up sales.

Hmmm....

bossy22

(3,547 posts)

3. I don't think you will even get that

Reply to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:07 PM

Dec 2012

I think an ammo ban and some improvement to NICS will be the end result if anything actually does happen

kelly1mm

(4,733 posts)

4. An ammo ban? Could you elaborate? nt

Reply to bossy22 (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:41 PM

Dec 2012

bossy22

(3,547 posts)

6. an ammunition magazine ban (clips)

Reply to kelly1mm (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:57 PM

Dec 2012

i forgot to put that word in

I look at the whole thing this way- if legislation is going to be passed it is going to be a comprimise of some sort. If the starting position is the AWB in all likelihood the result will be something more watered down with some provisions of the AWB included in it. I feel the magazine ban has the best chance of being that piece that does get incorporated.

kelly1mm

(4,733 posts)

8. OK - that makes sense. Thanks! nt

Reply to bossy22 (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:14 PM

Dec 2012

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)

5. I believe you are being overly optimistic

Reply to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:54 PM

Dec 2012

Maybe no magazines larger than offered with the weapon, no extended magazine for handguns. Improved NICS is no brainer, but there will be strings attached

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)

7. No, and not only is this another pointless sop that will achieve nothing of any substance,

Reply to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:02 PM

Dec 2012

it will make the 2010 election look like a Communist take over. The President's whole agenda will be undone and any hopes we had to make any progress in the next two years will be deader that reagan.

Push this POS through and we'll lose the Senate and get a veto-proof republican majority in the House in 2014.

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)

9. We have to start somewhere.

Reply to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:15 PM

Dec 2012

And add on.

Johonny

(20,854 posts)

10. Seems like a good start

Reply to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:24 PM

Dec 2012

putting something anything to a vote in the senate that didn't get filibustered would be a positive step. Either way anything that isn't about the fiscal cliff would at least be interesting to talk about. It would also put more pressure on the house to hold a vote on it. My guess is the Republicans will not let an up or down vote to occur.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)

11. and in the time it takes to be implemented, people will hoard the items for later sale

Reply to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:26 PM

Dec 2012

brooklynite

(94,604 posts)

12. I dispute your assumption...

Reply to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 10:01 PM

Dec 2012

The new Congress hasn't even come into office, and most of the Republicans are from relatively safe districts that still support gun rights. very unlikely that an AWB will pass.

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