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bigtree

(85,998 posts) Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:54 PM Dec 2012

Jesus! Did a hole open up from hell or something? Wtf?

Dec 16, 12:20 PM EST

Ind. man with 47 guns arrested after school threat

CEDAR LAKE, Ind. (AP) -- Authorities say an Indiana man who had 47 guns and ammunition in his home has been arrested after allegedly threatening to kill people at an elementary school near his home.

Cedar Lake police were called to the home of 60-year-old Von I. Meyer early Friday after he allegedly threatened to set his wife on fire. A police statement says Meyer also said he would enter Jane Ball Elementary School and "kill as many people as he could."

Authorities found 47 guns and ammunition worth over $100,000.

Prosecutors filed felony intimidation charges against Meyer on Saturday, one day after the massacre at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn. He is being held without bond.

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Jesus! Did a hole open up from hell or something? Wtf? (Original Post) bigtree Dec 2012 OP

This is a real gun nut ...not just an ordinairy gun owner who has one or two. L0oniX Dec 2012 #1

A nut with guns and LOTS and LOTS of ammo neverforget Dec 2012 #22

I think this is what known a collective behavior ThoughtCriminal Dec 2012 #2

how awful bigtree Dec 2012 #5

That guy is going to go bonkers when they take his guns away dkf Dec 2012 #3

It would seem like it. There is the copy cat murderer phenomena so Cleita Dec 2012 #4

I think that is the worst of it. There is no such thing as an isolated incident. Someone will GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #8

This is a job for drones NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #10

. bigtree Dec 2012 #6

But, but, but he is a legal gun owner! nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #7

plu shis first amend. right to free speech! elehhhhna Dec 2012 #15

Great title. ProSense Dec 2012 #9

K and r for the thread title alone... PCIntern Dec 2012 #11

The hole has been opened for many years. aandegoons Dec 2012 #12

+100,000!!! 2naSalit Dec 2012 #14

There are usually copycats after a tragedy like this. nt rrneck Dec 2012 #13

i grew up in indiana...it's full of gun nuttery spanone Dec 2012 #16

It's right here: ellisonz Dec 2012 #17

damn, never been there before....will never go back spanone Dec 2012 #18

She is lucky...but also not the most observant person ever born SoCalDem Dec 2012 #19

$100,000 in ammo? neverforget Dec 2012 #20

+1 xchrom Dec 2012 #21

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)

1. This is a real gun nut ...not just an ordinairy gun owner who has one or two.

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:55 PM

Dec 2012

neverforget

(9,436 posts)

22. A nut with guns and LOTS and LOTS of ammo

Reply to L0oniX (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 07:12 PM

Dec 2012

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)

2. I think this is what known a collective behavior

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:58 PM

Dec 2012

certain personality types will imitate after major events.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)

5. how awful

Reply to ThoughtCriminal (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:04 PM

Dec 2012

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. . . that there are people out there on the edge of emulating all of that senseless killing. It's unfathomable for the majority of us. Something far, far from our reasoning, I'm afraid.

dkf

(37,305 posts)

3. That guy is going to go bonkers when they take his guns away

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:00 PM

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Cleita

(75,480 posts)

4. It would seem like it. There is the copy cat murderer phenomena so

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:02 PM

Dec 2012

it might stir up nut cases across the country. I hope the police are vigilant and keep people they know might get worked up under surveillance.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,378 posts)

8. I think that is the worst of it. There is no such thing as an isolated incident. Someone will

Reply to Cleita (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:56 PM

Dec 2012

always try to emulate and surpass the last attempt.

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)

10. This is a job for drones

Reply to Cleita (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:02 PM

Dec 2012

They will never know they are being surveilled.

Don

bigtree

(85,998 posts)

6. .

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:47 PM

Dec 2012

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)

7. But, but, but he is a legal gun owner!

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:49 PM

Dec 2012

Until he isn't. I expect far more of this, no less.

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)

15. plu shis first amend. right to free speech!

Reply to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:44 PM

Dec 2012

SHoudln't it be legal to threaten to shoot up a school?!!! Because freedom? Why is he in jail at all?

sarc/off

ProSense

(116,464 posts)

9. Great title.

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:58 PM

Dec 2012

This has reached the level of legally sanctioned lunacy.

PCIntern

(25,556 posts)

11. K and r for the thread title alone...

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:06 PM

Dec 2012

Horrifying...

aandegoons

(473 posts)

12. The hole has been opened for many years.

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:08 PM

Dec 2012

Let's face it as human beings we just don't value life that much. And I cannot think of a shame that is worse than that for a species.

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)

14. +100,000!!!

Reply to aandegoons (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:42 PM

Dec 2012

rrneck

(17,671 posts)

13. There are usually copycats after a tragedy like this. nt

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:24 PM

Dec 2012

spanone

(135,844 posts)

16. i grew up in indiana...it's full of gun nuttery

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:46 PM

Dec 2012

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)

17. It's right here:

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:51 PM

Dec 2012

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172

spanone

(135,844 posts)

18. damn, never been there before....will never go back

Reply to ellisonz (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:54 PM

Dec 2012

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)

19. She is lucky...but also not the most observant person ever born

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 05:33 PM

Dec 2012

One has to wonder how/why she did not suspect future "problems" as he amassed an arsenal and squandered so much of the family resources for ammunition.

Hoarding is hoarding.. but that said, stacks of old magazines are not as potentially deadly as living with a gun-hoarder who may flip out and start shooting people.

Guns are made to kill..

Many gun-people say they use them for target practice only, but "practice" also implies that the "real thing" is just around the corner, once they have "practiced" enough

and yes I know that occasionally a body is discovered after a stack for something hoarded falls on a person & there's no one around to help them