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villager

(26,001 posts)
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:47 PM Dec 2012

Even in "enlightened" enclaves like DU, we can have a forum for guns & killing, but not sex

What does that say about us as a culture?

Even us, here at this site?

In other words, we have a forum where plenty of gun porn has been posted -- loving, rapturous descriptions of all the "new equipment" being bought, pictures being posted, etc.

You can talk about your hunting trips, and killing deer, boar, and all manner of critters (hopefully you're eating them, though)

But a forum where a loving, rapturous picture of naked body can be posted!? Where the masturbation is actual masturbation, and not just displaced to gun lust? No no no!

That would be "raunchy" and "seedy" and somehow bad.

Killing and killing machines: Good!

Fucking and naked bodies: Bad!

Even here.

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Even in "enlightened" enclaves like DU, we can have a forum for guns & killing, but not sex (Original Post) villager Dec 2012 OP
You want a porn forum? Evergreen Emerald Dec 2012 #1
Well, why gun porn, but not porn porn? Why Thanatos and not Eros? villager Dec 2012 #2
Kind of an excellent example of the OP's point. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #12
Yeah, that was his point. Sheesh. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #16
Sheesh is right Evergreen Emerald Dec 2012 #19
Has nothing to do with wanting one Major Nikon Dec 2012 #26
I disagree with your premise Evergreen Emerald Dec 2012 #29
I come here to get away from all that BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #3
I'd like to get away from fawning gun nut posts, but those are here too villager Dec 2012 #4
And many would like to get away from the gun crap here. cui bono Dec 2012 #21
Haven't enjoyed that either BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #22
Yeah, but I think it was posted just to illustrate a point. cui bono Dec 2012 #23
Try FetLife. n/t MadrasT Dec 2012 #5
Try getting the point of the OP. n/t cui bono Dec 2012 #20
it's a pretend taboo polemic_realism Dec 2012 #6
So if it's a control mechanism -- and doubtless that's part of it -- why is killing AOK? villager Dec 2012 #7
I remember when Saturday night sex talk in the Lounge at DU was more active than the Gungeoun leveymg Dec 2012 #8
"Locking, No Sex Threads. Gun porn is okay." RetroLounge Dec 2012 #9
that's pretty much it. Even here in the "Underground." villager Dec 2012 #14
But what about the children? Fumesucker Dec 2012 #10
What, you want real porn instead of gun port? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #11
What is gun port? n/t zappaman Dec 2012 #18
Nailed it. originalpckelly Dec 2012 #13
tv & movies, violence is more acceptable than sex. Even minor sex. It is wild. uppityperson Dec 2012 #15
I think it reflects our Christian influence. Violence ok, sex taboo. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #17
It's probably because the forum isn't limited to 18+ Sirveri Dec 2012 #24
Who is posting "gun porn"? Not sure where you get this. RBInMaine Dec 2012 #25
My thoughts on MichaelHarris Dec 2012 #27
WE COULD have had a forum about sex Skittles Dec 2012 #28

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
26. Has nothing to do with wanting one
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:43 AM
Dec 2012

It has more to do with a culture that is fine with openly glorifying violence, but openly glorifying sex is forbidden. Your comments and reaction prove his point. It would be preposterous to have a porn forum here, but if you think about it, it's even more preposterous to have a violence "porn" forum. Yet we do.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
29. I disagree with your premise
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 12:32 AM
Dec 2012

And I think it depends on your definition of porn. A forum on guns is different than a forum on violence. A forum on sex is very different than a forum on porn.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
4. I'd like to get away from fawning gun nut posts, but those are here too
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:05 PM
Dec 2012

The point is why is one acceptable, and the other isn't?

Guns are "political?" So is sex.

Gun laws get debated? So do sex laws.

But why is it AOK for someone to post some loving ode to a killing machine, but a loving ode to a device that gives you orgasms.. would be alert material?

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
21. And many would like to get away from the gun crap here.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:35 PM
Dec 2012

That's the point of the OP.

I don't go into the gun forum but I am alarmed that people on this board would defend assault weapons and semi-automatic/autmatic weapons that are in no way used for hunting and have no good purpose in the hands of private citizens, especially when they can be obtained without permits and background checks.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
23. Yeah, but I think it was posted just to illustrate a point.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:53 PM
Dec 2012

I don't want a porn forum here, but I'd like to not have a gun forum either.

polemic_realism

(66 posts)
6. it's a pretend taboo
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:09 PM
Dec 2012

I've always thought that the reason sex (or sexually charged images/conversation/experimentation) is made to seem so forbidden or dirty in our culture by certain media strategies and institutions is to allow us to think we are doing something "dangerous" and "wild". By making everything titillating, we stay always in half-arousal and distraction. It's just another thing to keep us from throwing down our tools and taking to the streets for legitimate change and progress.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
7. So if it's a control mechanism -- and doubtless that's part of it -- why is killing AOK?
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:18 PM
Dec 2012

In other words, it may be more than just distraction.

I mean, if everyone were basically spiritually and physically happy all the time (agreed that sex and the institutions around it are set up so that we always seem to be "malnourished" in that regard, even while being overwhelmed with titillation), that would be dangerous to society's architects and owners.

Which must be part of the reason it's okay for us to kill each other, instead.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
8. I remember when Saturday night sex talk in the Lounge at DU was more active than the Gungeoun
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:24 PM
Dec 2012

Things have changed in the last couple years since this place started catering to every perverse corner of national big tent politics.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
10. But what about the children?
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:29 PM
Dec 2012

Remember how Janet Jackson's nipple nearly caused the downfall of American society?

We cannot risk aiding that on DU.


 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
11. What, you want real porn instead of gun port?
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:30 PM
Dec 2012

You un-American or something?

Where is the fainting couch? Get the fainting salts?

( just giving you a hard time, but you are correct, show a tit...horror of horror...show an sks, gotta have one!)

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
24. It's probably because the forum isn't limited to 18+
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:30 AM
Dec 2012

I never really understood the 'no sex thread' aspect. I suspect it's because this website isn't limited to 18+, thus they could run afoul of some very nasty anti-pedophilia laws if they allow it.

But it would give us a place to dump the quarterly circumcision threads.

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