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NashvilleLefty

(811 posts)
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:25 PM Dec 2012

Too many people think they're Rambo.

After the Newtown tragedy, I was talking about it with some close friends at work - for whom I normally have great respect. I mentioned that after the Batman shootings in Aurora, I went to the same movie with several friends. One of my friends mentioned that he had a concealed carry on him, because of the shooting. I mentioned that the shooter in Aurora was wearing body armor, to which my friend simply replied "easy, head shot". I just shook my head.

I pointed out that although you see successful "head shots" in the movies, those are the movies. In reality, a clean head shot is almost impossible on a live, moving target. the better odds are that you'll hit someone else in the panic. One of my friends questioned this, and I replied that if no one was close to him, there is such a thing as a ricochet. Plus, after missing the first shot the shooter is going to start shooting in your direction. My friend stated that if he was drawing the fire from someone else, that was ok. I guess he didn't care about anyone close to him who would undoubtedly get shot.

I said that "everyone" thinks they can get in the clean Rambo shot. My friend then said "yeah, but I'm not 'everyone'!" and started laughing. I replied "that's what EVERYONE says."

Seriously, although a concealed carry may make you feel better or safer, in reality even hitting the shooter at all is a crap shoot. Hitting a non-moving target in a controlled environment is one thing, hitting a live, moving target surrounded by panic-driven people is entirely different. The odds are that you will simply make the situation worse.

These people scare me more than the deranged shooter.

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NashvilleLefty

(811 posts)
10. Regardless, my post was about the mind-set
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:48 PM
Dec 2012

of my friend. If I was wrong about the body armor, that's my bad. But as I said, even hitting any part of a living, moving human being in a panicked environment is a lot different than shooting a non-moving target in a controlled environment such as a shooting range.

The odds are that one will simply make the situation worse instead of being the Hero they envision themselves as.

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
12. Dark movie theater with people screaming running hiding I agree
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:03 PM
Dec 2012

But as I recall this shooting happened over several minutes .
It became systematic by the shooter.

At that point a concealed carry holder has two options.
Hide under the seats and hope it's not him next or try for a shot.

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
3. I'm pretty sure it wasn't a Kevlar vest or a plate the shooter had on
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:32 PM
Dec 2012

it was just a mag vest.
I believe media reported incorrectly on it.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
8. Too of them many are members of this website...
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:38 PM
Dec 2012

I think it's a combination of the media and the gun culture that make people believe this shit.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
9. Nicely stated.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:44 PM
Dec 2012

It's clearly insane to think otherwise. Not 1 in 10,000 gunners has the ability every freakin' one thinks they have.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
13. Now, this I do blame the entertainment industry for. The happy fact is that the overwhelming
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:06 PM
Dec 2012

majority of Americans have never seen, let alone been involved with, real gun violence, but because of this and ubiquitous fantasy violence that same overwhelming majority believe that they wouldn't have any problem dealing with it if they ever did.

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