Federal laws trumping state laws when it comes to guns.

Making the person who owns the gun partially responsible for any crime committed with that gun.

Stricter background checks. Close the gun show loophole. Limit all handgun clips to 6 shots and limit the number of clips you can buy to two, possibly 1. If that doesn't cut down on gun violence then maybe we should ban all guns.

Basically elimination of state-level gun laws and have guns regulated only by the federal government.

Open up access to the NICS background check system to non-licensees so that people who have used firearms to sell have a way of checking the background of the buyer.

I want to see this actually enforced every time no exceptions



We'll start there

Rifles and pistols designed for military are not needed for legitimate for target shooting and hunting.
They are optimized specifically for combat.
They have no place on the open market.

Create non-lethal target pistols and rifles. Encourage that option.
License gun ownership for specific purposes and types of guns (target, hunting, certified collector).
People owning multiple weapons might have to provide assurances that they are secure from unauthorized use.

...and private insurance to cover any and all expenses and losses related to the misuse of any gun.

Additionally, manufacturers and sellers should be required to carry insurance on every weapon they manufacture or sell in the event that their gun falls into the hands of an uninsured/irresponsible owner.

Several current measures should be removed or changed, however.

- The Hughes amendment should be repealed.
- School faculty members who are legally licensed to carry handguns should be allowed to do so on school property.
- The management of any establishment that bans handgun carry should be required to meet minimum armed security requirements, or be liable for any harm done by armed criminals on their property.

On the state level...

- Expanded shall-issue concealed and open carry licensing.
- Expanded handgun license reciprocity.
- Expanded college campus carry.

quite possibly the most deluded load of shit to spew from the mouth of Wayne LaPierre in quite some time but not surprising.

This would fall apart the second tax increases were mandated to train and arm anybody that wants to carry in a school because the only thing a concealed carry nut hates more than a spot where he can't carry is the idea that the government wants more cash from him.

Where would the tax increase come from? Maybe I phrased my proposal awkwardly and it didn't come across accurately. I'm talking about allowing teachers who acquire a handgun license under current structures to carry on school property, just as they are currently allowed to do off of school property. The applicant is required to pay for training and licensing, and that wouldn't change.

Now, employing armed security at schools would require more tax revenue. I would prefer allowing teachers to carry, but I'd also be willing to pay the tax to hire security, in order to prevent another disaster like what we just experienced.

Guns should be allowed everywhere and if you don't allow guns in your establishment you should be fined if a gun owner comes in and shoots up the place.

Well can't argue with that logic.

I mean, using your argument, the solution to global warming is more cars and unregulated industry pollution. And goddammit if you aren't willing to allow more pollution and more cars then you should be "Liable" for any harm done by the polluters you think should be regulated.

I find your global warming analogy flawed, though. My contention is that gun ownership is not the root cause of these shootings. An examination of the history of gun regulation in this country and of the history of these mass shootings convinces me of that.

I also didn't advocate allowing guns literally everywhere, though I think that would be preferable. Courthouses and other government buildings employ armed security and it appears to be plenty effective. Establishments that neither allow for personal self-defense nor provide professional security are, in my opinion, criminally irresponsible, and should be held to account for that.

enforcement of background check laws including at gunshows and the addition of a law mandating secure storage of all firearms and ammunition.

If you can afford guns and ammo you can afford a decent gun safe to keep your nutjob kid from taking it and killing a bunch of innocent kids.

Most state allow private party transactions without a background check, not just at gun shows. Federal law blocks private party sales from using NICS. Any FFL dealer must do a background check in accordance with the law of the state they are in, even at a gun show. I too would like to see background checks on all transactions. I believe there are ways it can be done without major costs to the government and the owners and still maintain private sales.

Some states already mandate storage or locks. CA's approach is somewhat stupid, but then again, its CA (I live there). Regardless, its the right thing to do to mandate that firearms are secured if they are not being used, transported, cleaned, etc.

Another thing to consider enforcing is the Brady Act. Prosecution rate is less than 10% of cases referred. That needs to get fixed and it requires no new laws.

They serve no purpose but to kill. Sure they are fun to target shoot with and I know some who hunt with them, which I frown on. If you are going to fire at an animal then making sure you cause it the least suffering possible should be the first intent and the chances of missing or not hitting it accurately are greatly increased with the use of a handgun.
Granted I do not know the % of deaths caused by easily hidden handguns or rifles/assault weapons but I would assume handguns to be much higher.

Handguns are the most effective means of self defense and self defense is a legitimate reason to use deadly force.

I teach firearms mostly to GLBTs and women for that reason. They are often reluctant gun owners but have come to the realization that until things change, they have little choice. The police cannot be there in real time, and are sometimes part of the problem. These are not people in bad neighborhoods participating in questionable activities. Sometimes it follows them home. T*s are being slaughtered in some cities and NOTHING IS BEING DONE. These are not gun nuts. They will probably never by any kind of long gun, AR, AK, or otherwise. They will disarm when the threat passes.

Maybe you can be the one standing over them telling them that it was better they get their brains bashed in or got tortured and shot rather that own an evil pistol. I however, will continue to help them until the threat passes. It seems the progressive thing to do.

But I thank you and do have to say I never really considered it in that way. I feel for the plight of people who need a handgun for protection. But that said, if I could wave a magic wand and make every handgun vanish from the streets of America and end the sale & manufacture. I'd be hard pressed not to consider it. I don't know the numbers but I have always had a suspicion that the Saturday Night Specials account for far, far more misery than rifles.
In the end would that mean putting a smaller section of the nation at large at greater risk? I guess it would. I would hope perhaps there would be other options for personal security available. And as always, better education for the masses.
It's a pipe dream anyway. Handguns aren't going anywhere. By the time they did, climate change will be kicking our proverbial asses anyway.
And BTW, thank you for teaching responsible gun ownership.

Even that magic would not stop attacks and bashing. Its the violence that needs to be addressed. The stats run both ways, but I think most of us believe that it is worse now that it was say 20 years ago. We have had multi shot hand guns for over 150 years, and semi automatic handguns for 100 years. Why now are they such a danger? What has changed and shouldn't that be what we work on?


Saturday Night Specials are not a large factor in the market or crimes. The thugs know they are crap and go for better ones. Nothing worse than going to a drive by and having your gun misfire. I have a couple for demonstration purposes. They are banned from import and I don't think anybody is making them domestically these days. Nasty, cheap, unreliable crap.

Rifles are rarely ever used, but when they do, it can be devastating as we saw Friday

any kind (much like drivers' license for motor vehicle operation). Failure to obtain license results in mandatory incarceration. No exceptions.

I'll be calling Maxine Waters office tomorrow a.m. to recommend she sponsor legislation to that effect in the next session.