Imagine having to reload and waiting that time for more skeet shooting. It's a horror only a fascist regime would impose on Responsible Gun Owners(TM).

Sometimes there are a lot of deer running around. How can you shoot all of them with a rifle?

n/t

"whooo that's an elusive little creature"

I mean, have these gun grabbers ever seen Zulu Dawn? The black people come in swarms to get you. You need thirty rounds at least to fend them off!

None.

First thing on the choppoing block should be the high capacity magazines. Ten rounds is way more than enough. Make the manufacture, sale, or possession of such magazines a federal felony with a mandatory minimum sentence of five years per magazine.

It's called mass murder

yup

Personally, I think 5 round mags ought to be the limit for long guns. As for handguns, the mag should not extend past the bottom of the grip.

They don't make as much noise.

to take my guns!!1!!!

Imagine the effects of seeing those small first grade bodies all shot up...i am not trying to be

crass....And..... I know that wont happen..... but it would have an impact.

Shock and awe...american style.

but you'll need a strong stomach

you come to the conclusion that they will face one of two scenarios......Government takeover (think Red Dawn) holding of the soldiers in a massive gun battle or attacked by a crazed drug induced zombie/person that won't go down unless they put 20 hollow point, high velocity rounds in them.
There are pages upon pages in forums that deal with velocity/impact/damage studies.

I have come to the conclusion that most that carry when they go shopping is to protect themselves from other carriers that have gone over the edge.

I'd imagine.

It would be really tedius to target shoot and have to reload after every five rounds.

Or should be. It would be simple to make a single round that could be activated by the firing pin to activate a laser that could be tracked for accuracy. You could eliminate noise and air pollution and save money.

The Army really wanted that to work...turns out the training was considerably less effective. MILES gear is still used, but it requires blanks to activate

We shot each other with bb-guns to condition us to pull the trigger on another human. You would want to condition troops for the actual sound, smell, and recoil. I'm talking about target practice for accuracy purposes.

Single aimed slow fire maybe, but the noise and recoil matter if you are doing anything else.

New shooters using real ammo may develop a flinch when they start with major caliber handguns which needs to be trained around. Can't do that with lasers. That said, dry firing is considered a good way to build muscle memory.

I have some laser training rounds and some times use them to demo things, but they are not really useful, especially with beginners.

but realistically, it would not.

I would outlaw those. No more hi capacity mags. Limit rifle mags to 10 rounds and handgun mags to what the manufacturer designed the gun for.

give 10 rounds? Who are you going to shoot?

10 round mags were allowed for new man. during the first AWB. It's a good number.

There is no reason anyone needs a 30 round clip for personal use......

NONE

or sub-people whne they misread constitutions or the Bible and make false claims.

they'll take a mile." The "inch" being high-capacity assault rifles and the feared "mile" meaning handgun registration and gun responsibility. It also has a whole lot to do with corporate profits, congressional enablers with "interests", the military-industrial complex and lots of Shadows that go bump in the night.

It's the murky place of non-definition between "War" and "Murder". It's mostly financial ... tinged by political and cultural, sometimes religious intrigue. No logic. The NRA is the cover of said murky place.

Guns as many here know. I do not now or ever have had a need for 30 round mags. I have had arguments with NRA members about this sort of thing and no I am not a member of that right wing organization. I do think there is a limit to what a civilian should be able to possess and still maintain our 2A rights. One good thing is most of these mags jam and they suck anyway.

Guess that large alimony provided some serious shopping money

In all their arguments for self-defense lurk the black mob, the slave revolt.

We are not that far progressed.

us to become raving homicidal maniacs with them. Maybe a re-think is in order.

Banning them previously was "useless legislation" because they "always jam up" after the first few rounds.

No doubt the reason he needed multiple ones was for that very reason!

That's about it.

One must, it seems, justify having things be legal. The burden of proof is on those wanting things permitted.

Are we a country where everything not explicitly banned is permitted, or a country where everything not explicitly permitted is banned?

Or is a matter of personal choice of the enlightened?

On edit: A lot of bans I find ludicrous. The AWB was one such thing, done based upon the rigorous logic of feeling than any sort of actual thinking. Many of the TSA requirements are likewise loony. A few months after 9/11 I had to travel by air. I was standing there reading the regs on what could and couldn't be taken on board.

I was standing there with my travel guitar, a solid piece of tropical hardwood wood as long as a baseball bat and rather heavier, with nice points carved into one end and metal pieces sticking out just right for doing serious damage. One or two blows to the head with it would be enough to kill somebody. The metal pieces that attached to it had moderately sharp ends and if held and thrust into somebody abdomen would also be unhealthful. Ahead of me people's possessions were confiscated. Fingernail clippers. A bottle of shampoo. Toothpaste. A racketball racket. You could fingernail clip or racketball racket somebody all day and do much less damage. They were confiscated and the passengers rebuked for daring to carry such lethal, banned items.

They looked at my lethal travel guitar and said that it was a musical instrument. I could take it on the plane. It and its internal electronics were permitted. Suddenly I felt rather less safe.

needs some sort of justification for being legal.

He taped two magazines together. This gives you 60 rounds when you flip the magazine over and reinsert it.

You don't watch old Vietnam War movies?