It's their "fathers" guns. They need their own guns so they can be familiar with them and not have accidents.

More guns, less accidents.

equally frightening results how may accidents car ownership causes.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ran+over+child+with+car&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US/

Thank you for clarification.

A gun is a discretionary acquisition.

with a gun.

Bizarre POV to my way of thinking.

And note, I didn't even google for overall car related child accidents and deaths, just those that were accidentally run over, quite similar to accidentally shooting a firearm. A child with a tool meant for adults results in accidents, who knew?

And gun ownership -- unnecessary to begin with unless you work in law enforcement or use one in another line of work -- leads to COMPLETELY unnecessary deaths.

were the children killed by cars then necessary to your way of thinking? But I don't see you demanding the end of cars. You can't have it both ways. If you want to stop the most unnecessary deaths, focus on cars. If you want to be hypocritically outraged, focus on guns.

Since kids get killed anyway with bathtubs and cars and ladders, what's the problem with bombs?

You're trying to hijack the argument with a bullshit NRA propaganda talking point. Cars get people from point a to point b. The sole purpose of a gun is to kill. Get out of here with that NRA nonsense.

no outrage about car ownership.

It's not the childrens' deaths that upset you, it's the how they died that does. That's hypocritical, imo.

Considering the fact almost every American family has a car, I'd bet that your chance of your kid getting killed by the family car is less than being killed by the family gun.

It's far more difficult to run somebody over with a car than it is to kill someone with a shotgun. Stop it. It's a complete bullshit talking point and it does not help the argument.

Sounds like you value your status as a gun owner far more than you care about your own kid's safety.

And made sure to be a responsible gun owner. Just as I was and am still a responsible car owner.

BTW with no more children in my care, I no longer carry and will soon be a non-owner as well, my daughter is getting her concealed permit and will be the owner as is my son's SO (both women over 21) who was at the mall in Clackamas working when that all went down.

Oh and the two women couldn't be more different. My dd is a liberal, progressive, my son's SO is a religious, conservative. Go figure.

When you bring a gun into a home with children, you alone bear the responsibility if something goes wrong.

Most parents who care about their children make sure they use car seats, eat a balanced diet, and wear bike helmets. Anyone who looks at gun death statistics would realize that a gun in the house is putting their child at risk in a way that's unthinkable for any loving parent.

they were taught that the MOST dangerous tool they will ever handle is a car and to take being in one f'ing seriously, don't distract the driver, don't throw tantrums, pay attention to know when to hush up because traffic is heavy and so on. From day one.

Upon becoming a CCW carrier, the gun was handed to the kids annually on their birthdays to assure that they could still never chamber a round. Once a round could be chambered (this was only done by seeing if the could slide the slide, no actual bullet was used), the seriousness of a gun, gun ownership etc, was fully discussed at least annually. And the advantage of being a CCW carrier is that my ONE gun was always on my person, almost never anywhere else and never had a round chambered. This was visually evident, whether a round was chambered or not, after a dry fire. When I went to the shooting range for practice, I actually practiced the full thing from pulling the firearm to chambering a round to firing, since that is how the gun resided all the time outside the range. Oh, and my daughter couldn't chamber a round till she was 16 and my son moved to his dad's at 14 and could not chamber a round when he left. Glocks are damned difficult to chamber.

Buckle up their seatbelts. Make them wear bike and ski helmets. Vaccinate them.

But if you insist on keeping a gun in your house, and that gun hurts your child, then you failed in your first mission as a parent. And that's to keep them as safe as you possibly can.

Whether by gun or by car or by pool, when something that is supposed to be in the parent's control causes injury to a child, the parent is responsible. My bike got knocked over by a huge rottweiler with my daughter in a seat on the back. When I picked ourselves up, her head just flopped, scared me shitless. Ended up being a very minor concussion. During the hospital visit the doc asked why she didn't have one of those new childrens' helmets on.... cuz I didn't know, I'd never heard of such a thing, I'd never been knocked over. But to this day, all those nevers were totally my responsibility to have known and I didn't. Her concussion was 100% my fault, the dog's fault for knocking us over, but the concussion totally mine.