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OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 07:10 PM Dec 2012

For those who advocate guns for self-defense (ABC 20/20 article and video, 2009)

This is from 2009. It's a 20/20 special about how people who are armed (and trained in the basics) react under unexpectedly violent scenarios.

People don't take into account that, no matter how much training they've had at a shooting range, the dynamics when under stress are very, very different.


Article: http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=7298996&page=1#.UM5UV6y5UR9

"It's a different situation between civilians that are armed and police that are armed," Guzman said in an interview on "Good Morning America Weekend" shortly after a school shooting at Northern Illinois University last year that left six people dead. "When police respond, there's multiple police officers, they're at a safer distance, 20, 30 feet away. And one officer doesn't fire; it's multiple officers firing. [If] it's one person, one criminal, a robbery, mugging, things of that sort [where] the victim is a couple feet away, you don't have to be a crack shot."

But opponents argue that using a weapon for self-defense in a true emergency is not like target practice.

"Video games and movies, they glorify gun fights," said Chris Benton, a police investigator with the Bethlehem, Pa. police department. "It's not reality you know and they get that warped sense that this video games is exactly what I can do in real life."

Average Citizens Not Prepared to Handle a Gun in an Emergency.


Here's the video: http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/defend-gun-7312540



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For those who advocate guns for self-defense (ABC 20/20 article and video, 2009) (Original Post) OneGrassRoot Dec 2012 OP
That experiment was designed so that the gun carriers would fail. justanidea Dec 2012 #1
Right, Rambo. I'm sure that YOU could NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #3
Big t-shirts = fail test is fail? And yes, someone shooting at you might know where you are and uppityperson Dec 2012 #4
You will never get those who can't venture out of their homes without a gun strapped on to admit Hoyt Dec 2012 #2
I first saw this today. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #5
 

justanidea

(291 posts)
1. That experiment was designed so that the gun carriers would fail.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 07:20 PM
Dec 2012

The shooter knew exactly where they were and targeted them immediately.

They also gave the people participating t-shirts 3 sizes too big, gloves that were excessively bulky, and a helmet which blocks peripheral vision.

Fail test is fail.

NashvilleLefty

(811 posts)
3. Right, Rambo. I'm sure that YOU could
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 07:38 PM
Dec 2012

just shoot the gun out his hand.

People who do conceal carry for the sake of their own protection and the protection of others scare me more than the random shooters.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
4. Big t-shirts = fail test is fail? And yes, someone shooting at you might know where you are and
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:00 PM
Dec 2012

you have to figure out where they are. If you have to do something in real life.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. You will never get those who can't venture out of their homes without a gun strapped on to admit
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 07:30 PM
Dec 2012

they are not a cowboy superman and that their gun won't do a thing for them in the vast majority of situations (situations that are very unlikely to arise, at that).

These fools have an answer for every legitimate criticism about their cherished lethal weapons.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
5. I first saw this today.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:28 PM
Jan 2013

EVERYone who thinks they're Rambo should watch this. There are a lot of delusional gun humpers out there who think they're invincible with their guns. When the opposite is actually true. They're more likely to get killed and kill or wound someone else.

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