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digonswine

(1,485 posts)
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:35 PM Dec 2012

Things to say or not say to the grieving-

I have not lost a child, or a parent yet. I am lucky.

I have lost two very close grandparents-ones I spend half my childhood with.

I can say, for me, that there is little one can say to make the loss better. There is little one can say to make it worse.

We worry about mentioning the loved one or death---but the bereaved are already thinking of it. Our silly comments make no difference.

They(we) take no offense-it is forthright in our minds in any case.

In fact, this loss is the only thing we think of when it is fresh.
I think it silly when someone worries about reminding someone recently suffering, of death.

Has your experience been otherwise?

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Things to say or not say to the grieving- (Original Post) digonswine Dec 2012 OP
My brother died in May 2011 dflprincess Dec 2012 #1
I am sorry for you recent losses- digonswine Dec 2012 #2
"I'm sorry" is usually safe to say. Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2012 #3
I'm sorry is good- digonswine Dec 2012 #4
Yeah but unfortunately the JW sister was completely sincere. Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2012 #7
It is difficult KT2000 Dec 2012 #5
I read a story about a preacher. Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2012 #6
Got another one for ya KT2000 Dec 2012 #8

dflprincess

(28,082 posts)
1. My brother died in May 2011
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:54 PM
Dec 2012

and my mom died this past May (my dad died when I was a kid). I like it when people mention them to me - I don't like it when I feel like I'm the only one who still misses them and it's good to know others remember them as well.

I think people usually appreciate it when you mentioned their loved ones - don't ever pretend like they never existed.

digonswine

(1,485 posts)
2. I am sorry for you recent losses-
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:10 AM
Dec 2012

And I was not intimating otherwise.
I found that being able to talk of those lost was comforting to me.

During a most recent loss-I found that I wanted to talk about it.

But when it was so fresh, and so recent, it really did not matter what anyone said.
I was always thinking only of the person lost. I was not thinking about an insensitive comment from a believer or non-believer. It was irrelevant. I thought only of that person lost and how that closed certain doors for all time.

I guess the idea is--that we take ourselves too seriously when we worry about what we say or do when someone has lost a loved one.
They don't care-they are thinking only of that one thing.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
3. "I'm sorry" is usually safe to say.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:15 AM
Dec 2012

What not to say:
One story I heard from hubby: His mother was estranged from her sisters b/c they became JWs and she didn't talk to them for 20 years. the sisters took care of her when she died. After the funeral one of the JW sisters said "I know you think that she's in Heaven. But she is in hell." The woman was told "Now is NOT the time to say anything."

Before hubby's mom died, she told her sisters they could come take care of her, she told them, "And keep your goddamned religion to yourself." That was in 1968.

digonswine

(1,485 posts)
4. I'm sorry is good-
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:22 AM
Dec 2012

luckily, when someone says something so full of batshittery as you describe(the sister's), anyone can discount as so much BS.

KT2000

(20,588 posts)
5. It is difficult
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:32 AM
Dec 2012

to know what to say because like you said - nothing makes it better.

I generally try to mention what I really liked about the person who died - what made the person special in my opinion. Different people have different impressions and the grieving person ususally appreciates it. I think in grief we appreciate knowing our beloved is important to others too.

I have heard plenty of the Wrong things said though - mention of bad habits etc. That does make it worse.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
6. I read a story about a preacher.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:19 AM
Dec 2012

This was in Tennessee or Kentucky.
The preacher was preaching the funeral, that the dearly departed was a sinner, a bad guy, was presently in Hell, etc.

So what did the family do?
They dragged him down the center aisle of the church, took him outside and beat the crap out of him.

That should happen more often.

KT2000

(20,588 posts)
8. Got another one for ya
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:56 AM
Dec 2012

A friend attended his father's funeral with his son. The father was a mean, crotchety guy his whole life. His last request was for a person to read something he wrote at his funeral. Turned out it was a list of all the people (relatives included) over his lifetime that he did not like and the reasons why.
The son noted that it was the weirdest funeral he had ever been to.

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