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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDebate over shooting took a turn to a debate over what is an assault rifle
My stance to my husband's friend on Facebook is pretty basic: 'I, and most people don't want to take all your guns. We just want common sense gun safety laws, ie: banning assault rifles, thorough background checks, close loopholes, etc.'
His response is the slippery slope+ bullshit:
The definition of assault rifle is full auto. The bush master is semi-auto so no its not an assault rifle. You want to weaken the bill of rights go ahead but don't claim support for the 2 nd amendment while doing it. What other liberties do you have no use for? As surly as you give up this one all your others will be taken away. Oh its just the assault ones or the Saturday night special or hollow points or magazine size. Divided and concord picked apart all the while we won't go after your gun. But these are my gun and your friends gun and some stranger who does carry legally and would protect you if the need was there. But too often we cannot carry in places due to the law. And that is where the evel with bad intent go. Time and time again.
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mwrguy
(3,245 posts)then it is an assault weapon.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)between automatic and semi auto esp because it seems to be not widely known on this site. It is the semi automatic they are calling assault weapons and they are one shot one bullet weapons not full automatic. I am not an expert but
We have lots of really good knowledgeable people on the site who can explain it and very well if they are given a chance.
I am extra sleepy so please forgive if this is jumbled up. Night.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Sorry...
And yes, I know the technical differences. Before that is, you try to lecture me.
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)sanatanadharma
(3,739 posts)...if society lawfully changes enough to ban guns. Ipso facto, such gun owners can not claim to be law abiding. Their argument is that they will abide with the laws that they like and thus can't be trusted.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/117294735
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Have the rate of fire of a tommy, which is tightly regulated by the National Firearms Gun Control Act of 1934
http://law.jrank.org/pages/8725/National-Firearms-Act-1934.html
We have done this in the past...enough of this bullshit. (Not you, our fun nutters)
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)Very heavy gun. Virtually no recoil. Climbs like crazy.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)But the point is...there are tight controls. We need to think of that. St Valentine Day Massacre led to that Act...it's in the books.
The tommy is legal to own. It's just a pain in the rear to do so.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)With very extensive background checks. When was the last time one was used in a criminal act in the US?
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)Even with the much slower rate of fire and the Cutts Compensator, they too climb skyward
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)they serve no useful purpose ban them and try to recover as many as possible that are already out there.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)Definitions are going to be massively important. That is why the last Fed AWB failed.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)Why'd they stick a rant about grapes in there?
k2qb3
(374 posts)It's my position that "assault" is a verb, lots of people seem to think it's an adjective.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)It isn't semantics, it's the heart of the disagreement.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)also remind him
If only the shooter's first victim, a teacher, had a gun, this would have taken care of the problem.
Of course the NRA disciple don't get irony and satire (and even some on our side don't get it either).
But tell him that.
(btw-it always is HIM isn't it? not her, but him. That is always interesting.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)This is the NRA way of "baffling with bullshit." Throw out a bunch of definitions and statistics about guns until people give up and shut up.
Paladin
(28,276 posts)As long as we allow the agenda-driven gun obsessives to define what an "assault rifle" is, as long as we allow them to go into drooling hysterics over the negligible difference between a "magazine" and a "clip," as long as we allow them to deflect attention from what the important issues are, they will manage to prevent meaningful gun control from being put in place. Don't be fooled by all this, they've been using this tactic for years and years.