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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy doesn't anyone come out and ask the politicians to raise the CAP to solve the SS problem?
raccoon
(31,126 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,324 posts)And ignored by the muckety schmucks.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)morning talk shows.
Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)People can ask but it won't be reported on or considered seriously or discussed except to ridicule it.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)and they already paid for that tax to be capped
CrispyQ
(36,533 posts)Austerity will never touch these sacred cows & here's why:
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)we have a political class that is looking out from their class...fuck the rest of us.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)On the eve of Occupy Wall Streets first anniversary, Congressman Keith Ellison introduced a much-needed common sense bill: HR 6411, the Inclusive Prosperity Act. The bill taxes financial transactions to generate revenue for social needs. Amid our consensus-narrowed, deficit-obsessed political debate, its a call to arms, and a breath of fresh air.
As Ive often argued, a financial transaction tax is deeply pragmatic, broadly popular and sorely needed. At a time when budget slashing is a bipartisan obsession, it offers vital revenue. As we struggle to escape the recession wrought by the 1 percent, it presents a simple solution to discourage speculation. As progressives fight too many defensive battles, the financial transaction tax presents an urgent opportunity to go on offense...
But the FTT would never have made it thus far without sustained and savvy organizing. Groups like National Nurses United, National Peoples Action, and Health GAP have been tenacious in forcing the FTT onto the agenda. Their European counterparts have forged a critical mass of support within the EU. And theyre backed on both sides of the pond by a slew of economists and financial professionals who wield common sense against Chicken Little lobbyists...
Ellisons bill would raise up to $350 billion through a small tax on stock, bond, derivative and currency trading.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/09/26-10
That is from the link, that I found here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021424128
Keith Ellison is one of the members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.
...Of the 20 standing committees of the House in the 111th Congress, 10 were chaired by members of the CPC. Those chairmen were replaced when the Republicans took control of the House in the 112th Congress...
All members are members of the Democratic Party or caucus with the Democratic Party. There are currently 76 declared Progressives, including 73 voting Representatives, two non-voting Delegates, and one Senator.
House members:
[edit] Arizona
* Ed Pastor (AZ-4, Phoenix)
* Raúl Grijalva (AZ-7, Tucson) - Co-Chair
[edit] California
* Lynn Woolsey (CA-6, Santa Rosa) Retired in 2012
* George Miller (CA-7, Richmond)
* Barbara Lee (CA-9, Oakland)
* Pete Stark (CA-13, Fremont) Defeated in 2012
* Janice Hahn (CA-36, San Pedro)
* Michael Honda (CA-15, San Jose)
* Sam Farr (CA-17, Monterey)
* Xavier Becerra (CA-31, Los Angeles)
* Judy Chu (CA-32, El Monte)
* Karen Bass (CA-33, Baldwin Hills)
* Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34, Los Angeles)
* Maxine Waters (CA-35, Inglewood)
* Laura Richardson (CA-37, Long Beach) Defeated in 2012
* Linda Sánchez (CA-39, Lakewood)
* Bob Filner (CA-51, San Diego)
[edit] Colorado
* Jared Polis (CO-02, Boulder)
[edit] Connecticut
* Rosa DeLauro (CT-3, New Haven)
[edit] Florida
* Corrine Brown (FL-3, Jacksonville)
* Frederica Wilson (FL-17, Miami)
[edit] Georgia
* Hank Johnson (GA-4, Lithonia)
* John Lewis (GA-5, Atlanta)
[edit] Hawaii
* Mazie Hirono (HI-2, Honolulu) Elected to the Senate
[edit] Illinois
* Bobby Rush (IL-1, Chicago)
* Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-2, Chicago Heights), resigned his house seat on November 21, 2012
* Luis Gutierrez (IL-4, Chicago)
* Danny Davis (IL-7, Chicago)
* Jan Schakowsky (IL-9, Chicago)
[edit] Indiana
* André Carson (IN-7, Indianapolis)
[edit] Iowa
* Dave Loebsack (IA-2, Cedar Rapids)
[edit] Maine
* Chellie Pingree (ME-1, North Haven)
[edit] Maryland
* Donna Edwards (MD-4, Fort Washington)
* Elijah Cummings (MD-7, Baltimore)
[edit] Massachusetts
* John Olver (MA-1, Amherst) Retired in 2012
* Jim McGovern (MA-3, Worcester)
* Barney Frank (MA-4, Newton) Retired in 2012
* John Tierney (MA-6, Salem)
* Ed Markey (MA-7, Malden)
* Mike Capuano (MA-8, Boston)
[edit] Michigan
* John Conyers (MI-14, Detroit)
* Hansen Clarke (MI-13, Detroit) Defeated in 2012 - primary
[edit] Minnesota
* Keith Ellison (MN-5, Minneapolis) - Co-Chair
[edit] Mississippi
* Bennie Thompson (MS-2, Bolton)
[edit] Missouri
* William Lacy Clay, Jr. (MO-1, St. Louis)
* Emanuel Cleaver (MO-5, Kansas City) - Chairman, Congressional Black Caucus
[edit] New Jersey
* Frank Pallone (NJ-06, Long Branch)
* Rush Holt (NJ-12, Hopewell Township)
[edit] New Mexico
* Ben R. Luján (NM-3, Santa Fe)
[edit] New York
* Jerry Nadler (NY-8, Manhattan)
* Yvette Clarke (NY-11, Brooklyn)
* Nydia Velázquez (NY-12, Brooklyn)
* Carolyn Maloney (NY-14, Manhattan)
* Charles Rangel (NY-15, Harlem)
* José Serrano (NY-16, Bronx)
* Maurice Hinchey (NY-22, Saugerties) Retired in 2012
* Louise Slaughter (NY-28, Rochester)
[edit] North Carolina
* Mel Watt (NC-12, Charlotte)
* Brad Miller (NC-13, Raleigh) Retired in 2012
[edit] Ohio
* Marcy Kaptur (OH-9, Toledo)
* Dennis Kucinich (OH-10, Cleveland) Defeated in 2012 - primary
* Marcia Fudge (OH-11, Warrensville Heights)
[edit] Oregon
* Earl Blumenauer (OR-3, Portland)
* Suzanne Bonamici (OR-1, Beaverton)
* Peter DeFazio (OR-4, Eugene)
[edit] Pennsylvania
* Bob Brady (PA-1, Philadelphia)
* Chaka Fattah (PA-2, Philadelphia)
[edit] Rhode Island
* David Cicilline (RI-1, Providence)
[edit] Tennessee
* Steve Cohen (TN-9, Memphis)
[edit] Texas
* Sheila Jackson Lee (TX-18, Houston)
* Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30, Dallas)
[edit] Vermont
* Peter Welch (VT-At Large)
[edit] Virginia
* Jim Moran (VA-8, Alexandria)
[edit] Washington
* Jim McDermott (WA-7, Seattle)
[edit] Wisconsin
* Tammy Baldwin (WI-2, Madison) Elected to the Senate
* Gwen Moore (WI-4, Milwaukee)
[edit] Non-voting
* Donna M. Christensen (Virgin Islands)
* Eleanor Holmes Norton (District of Columbia)
Senate members:
* Bernie Sanders (Vermont)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Progressive_Caucus
CrispyQ
(36,533 posts)I see my rep is on the list. I will write & let him know I'm please & also drop his name when I write my senators about this.
I don't think the people in power realize just how pissed off the working class is right now. I think the bad economy fuels a lot of the rage out there & they are suggesting putting even more burden on us.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)But only from those who contact them, more especially, though who know what is being done and tell them what bill they support, and which one they oppose.
Those who refuse to get involved will not have their opinion heard. Those who refuse to vote as some say they won't, have left the field to the Tea Party. We can't count on them.
still_one
(92,433 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)By Jeff Spross on Nov 16, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Democratic Senator Mark Begich of Alaska... Social Security, the government entitlement that provides support to seniors in retirement, the disabled, and other Americans, has long been in the cross-hairs of budget reformers. The programs trust fund currently wont be spent out until 2033, and after that it would still pay 75 percent of scheduled benefits.
Most of the proposed solutions to the shortfall involve cutting back benefits and raising the minimum retirement age. Both are deeply problematic; at its current level of benefits Social Security kept over 20 million people out of poverty in 2011, many Americans in demanding manual labor jobs already take early retirement and thus reduced benefits as it is, and lower-income Americans have not particularly benefited from the average rise in lifespans .
This week, however, Sen. Mark Begich (D-AK) put forward a reform package that goes in the opposite direction, while still financially securing the programs trust fund for roughly the next seven decades. The Washington Posts Dylan Matthews laid out the details:
The Begich bill would lift the current payroll tax cap, which exempts wages in excess of a certain amount ($110,100 this year) from the tax. In turn, it would give high earners, who would pay more, additional benefits upon retirement, just as benefits increase as wages do for workers below the cap.
It also increases benefits across-the-board. While Bowles-Simpson and Domenici-Rivlin adopt a stingier chained CPI measure for inflation, Begich adopts CPI-E, or a measure that specifically captures inflation in goods that seniors buy.
Due to deteriorated health and other considerations, goods seniors buy tend to be more expensive than those younger people purchase. Begichs CPI-E change would mean, effectively, a 4.5 percent benefit increase for the programs beneficiaries, including not just seniors but their designated survivors and disabled Americans as well.
The Congressional Research Service ran the numbers back in 2010 and concluded that eliminating the payroll tax cap while also paying out the new benefits to wealthier Americans in accordance with their new taxes would eliminate 95 percent of the trust funds shortfall over the next 75 years.
Begich may not hit that goal exactly, depending on how the legislation is written. In particular, his change to CPI-E also lifts the overall benefit level, on top of the changes in CRS scenario. But his reform would probably come very close.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/11/16/1208701/democratic-senator-introduces-bill-to-lift-social-securitys-tax-cap-extend-its-solvency-for-decades/
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021835303
Will the 29 Sanders-letter senators co-sponsor the Begich Social Security bill?
The most recent Social Security bill, proposed by Alaska Sen. Mark Begich, includes such enhancements as full cancellation of the payroll cap making the Social Security tax a simple flat tax and not a regressive one and improves the cost-of-living adjustment by indexing it to the items most bought by the elderly. All round, a very good bill.
This bill also goes on offense, putting a stake in the ground that says Social Security benefits should be enhanced, not just kept the same. I hope you can see the negotiating benefit of that.
The 29 senators who signed the Sen. Sanders letter are playing excellent defense drawing a line that says No Cuts to the safety net and No New Tax Breaks for the rich. (With the BushObama Tax Cuts set to expire in December, renewing them is without doubt a new tax break.)
Can we get the 29 senators to go on offense as well, and co-sponsor the Begich bill? You could ask them.
Heres that list of Sanders-letter senators, the good guys in this fight. Note that Mark Begich, the author of the Begich bill, is an organizer:
Organizers:
Bernie Sanders (I-VT) (202) 224-5141
Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) (202) 224-2921
Mark Begich (D-AK) (202) 224-3004
Al Franken (D-MN) (202) 224-5641
Other signers:
Harry Reid (D-NV) (202) 224-3542
Chuck Schumer (D-NY) (202) 224-6542
Jack Reed (D-RI) (202) 224-4642
Sherrod Brown ((D-OH) (202) 224-2315
Ron Wyden (D-OR) (202) 224-5244
Patrick Leahy (D-VT) (202) 224-4242
Ben Cardin (D-MD) (202) 224-4524
Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) (202) 224-4822
Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) (202) 224-2823
Tom Harkin (D-IA) (202) 224-3254
Jeff Merkley (D-OR) (202) 224-3753
Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) (202) 224-3224
Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) (202) 224-4654
Patty Murray (D-WA) (202) 224-2621
Barbara Boxer (D-CA) (202) 224-3553
Maria Cantwell (D-WA) (202) 224-3441
Daniel Akaka (D-HI) (202) 224-6361
Tim Johnson (D-SD) (202) 224-5842
John Rockefeller (D-WV) (202) 224-6472
Daniel Inouye (D-HI) (202) 224-3934
Tom Udall (D-NM) (202) 224-6621
Robert Menendez (D-NJ) (202) 224-4744
Carl Levin (D-MI) (202) 224-6221
Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) (202) 224-4451
Joe Manchin (D-WV) (202) 224-3954
http://americablog.com/2012/11/will-the-29-senators-who-signed-the-sanders-letter-co-sponsor-the-begich-social-security-bill.html
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251253882
CrispyQ
(36,533 posts)Time to write a letter, a heated letter!
Good post. Thank you.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)it has nothing to do with this phony crises. They want to steal from SS and people on disability and Veterans to pay for a debt caused by tax breaks for the wealthy and wars of choice. A debt that they do not owe. It's theft, plain and simple.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Surprised when scorpion-like activities come about. (Reference to the old "turtle and scorpion" crossing a river fable.)
Most "Centrist" Dems are scorpions. Most Blue Dog Dems are scorpions.
On edit - what is odd to me is how many people, who should understand this, refuse to believe it, until some momentous realization sinks in. Like the moment we realize that the public option was not put on the table.
Or until the moment we realize that BP is getting WH-go-ahead to be in charge of "Cleaning up " the mess DeepWater Horizon made of an entire Eco-system.
Or until the moment someone figures out that the Obama EPA not reporting on Fukushima releases of radiation will not affect people less simply because radiation monitoring stations have been ordered closed.
As far as Social Security being cut, Obama stated quite openly during the first debate that he agreed with Rmoney about the Simpson Bowles Commission. And of course he agreed - he appointed the Commission's members!
[h2][font color=red]DUH![h2][font color=red]
Autumn
(45,120 posts)and I agree with your description of "centrists" and blue dogs. I was concerned when Obama said he agreed with romney but I figured okay, it's just talk and he says he will protect it. So basically Obama made me nervous but romney terrified me.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,444 posts)Thanks for the thread, still one.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Raising -the-Cap was one of the very few differences between Obama & Hillary.
It was THIS difference that won my support for Obama in 2008.
Raise the Payroll Tax Cap
Raise the Payroll Tax Cap
SMOOTH, wasn't he?
Scammed me, and I'm not easy.
CrispyQ
(36,533 posts)At least during the primaries?
bvar22
(39,909 posts)He ridiculed Hillary for supporting it in the debates,
and told America precisely WHY Mandated Health Insurance was BAD for America.
He also "campaigned" on Renegotiating NAFTA,
making EFCA "The Law of the Land",
and labeling GM foods,
.....but THIS thread is about Social Security,
and NOT a general Pile On on the President.
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CrispyQ
(36,533 posts)2009.
And when dem voters are unenthusiastic in 2014, it will be our fault for being purists.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)indepat
(20,899 posts)any higher-income person.