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neverforget

(9,436 posts)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:48 PM Dec 2012

The Oregon Mall Shooter and my visit to the mall with my family.

On December 11, Jacob Tyler Roberts went into Clackamas Town Center Mall and started shooting with an AR-15. He killed 2 people, wounded a 3rd before killing himself. This mall is about 1 mile from my house so we go here relatively often, maybe once a month or so. When the shooting happened, we heard the police and emergency vehicles responding and later the news helicopters flying over our house. Because this one one was so close to us, I had to explain to my 8 year old daughter what happened at the mall. She asked why someone would do that and I said I don't know. How do you explain why a person goes on a killing spree to an 8 year old?

Then Adam Lanza decided to use an AR-15 to kill 20 kids and 7 adults before killing himself. My daughter asked me again, why would someone do that? I told her I don't know. Then her teacher had to explain to her class why they're safe at their school.

Tonight, we went to Clackamas Town Center Mall. My daughter was very apprehensive and scared as we entered the mall at the food court. We walked through the mall to the bookstore and she was clinging to mom. The poor girl thinks it will happen again while we were there. Of course, she doesn't understand that the odds of something like that happening while we were there are very small. But try telling that to an 8 year old....

(Thank God I didn't have to tell her about the Aurora, CO theater shooting as she'd probably never want to go see a movie again.)

But the point of this is that gun violence has got to stop. Twice in 1 week I had to explain to an 8 year old why some asshole with a gun goes on a killing spree. That's 2 times too much. It has to stop.

It wasn't like this in my childhood. What the hell has changed in America? Why are guns so important to us? Is it ever going to change? For the sake of my daughter and children everywhere, I hope so. I'm sick of this.

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CurtEastPoint

(18,656 posts)
1. As a child of the 50's I wonder the same damn thing. What happened to make people so...
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:52 PM
Dec 2012

crazy about guns? I mean, rifles and hunting are one thing but jeebus...this obsession w/machine guns and stuff. It's just sickening.

 

Berserker

(3,419 posts)
8. Gee let me think ummmm
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:46 AM
Dec 2012

I am also a child of the 50s and we grew up with The Rifleman, The Rebel, Wagon Train, Have GUN will Travel, Maverick, Gun smoke, The Lone Ranger, Roy Rogers, Gene Autry, Bonanza, Hundreds of war films just to name a few. And what do they all have in common? Guns. We all had guns then cap guns, BB guns, Pop guns and I even had the same toy gun as the rifleman and would try to beat him every week when he came on. I had a toy gun belt with a 6 shooter on each hip. And you wonder why we are so obsessed with guns?

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)
3. look up Oath Keepers And Age of Treason
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:59 PM
Dec 2012

It was in Mother Jones March/April 2010

You will understand how crazy America is getting. 300 million Americans. 314 million guns. How can this be?

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
5. I know. I keep posting 300 million guns are we safe yet?
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:03 AM
Dec 2012

It's frustrating to think that some (NRA, Gun Owners of America, etc) think that the answer to gun violence is more guns. Is the answer to flu, more flu?

calimary

(81,440 posts)
6. Yeah. Enough guns to arm everyone in America. Oh yeah, I feel safer alright.
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:28 AM
Dec 2012


Hair of the dog that shot you. Makes NO sense whatsoever. More guns? Arm schools and teachers to the teeth? Well, how'd that work out for the victims of Fort Hood?
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