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Vietnameravet

(1,085 posts)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 06:01 PM Dec 2012

President now takes a hard line..

Funny how I heard about how evil and weak Obama was in his negotiations with Republicans and his evil cuts to SS...
But no one seem to have noticed this article


http://www.politicususa.com/obama-drops-hammer-republicans-pulls-fiscal-cliff-proposal.html

Obama said he met them on taxes and he met them more than halfway on spending, The president said he is still committed to working towards the goal of making a deal, but in 10 days we are facing a deadline. The president then reiterated his call for Congress to immediately extend the Bush tax cuts for the 98%

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Underneath all the nice language about compromise, President Obama pulled back any sort of cuts that he had offered in his previous proposal by urging Republicans and Democrats to pass a tax cut extension for the 98%. In other words, that $400,000 income cutoff for the tax cut extension is gone, and we are back to $250,000. In fact, the President appeared to take all spending cuts off the table.

IMO Obama is in a much stronger position now having made so many offers..frankly I worry more about some of his supporters than his enemies..
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backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
1. Where did all the despair trolls go?
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 06:02 PM
Dec 2012

After Obama told Boehner "Nothing. I get that for free," the shit-stirring cockroaches seemed to have fled back under the woodwork...

 

Vietnameravet

(1,085 posts)
3. I wonder about some of those posters
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 06:06 PM
Dec 2012

They called Obama evil and a liar and wished they had not voted for him and went on and on about how bad he was.. I just wonder why some would post things as vicious as that..??

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
6. I'm one of those who is on Social Security and is horrified that Obama even considered cutting
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 06:37 PM
Dec 2012

it. Shameful. And if he brings that possibility up again, I will be calling him evil and a liar and saying I wished I had not volunteered so many, many hours for him.

I didn't change. Obama let us understand when he was running for re-election that Social Security would be off the table. Why did he put it on?

Whether we go off the cliff or not, the economy will get worse, maybe go into recession. And if that recession is accompanied, as recessions usually are, with deflation, Social Security will not go up. If we have the chained CPI and a recession, seniors will really suffer. Because in the worst recession, the things we have to buy -- food and medication -- and the things we have to pay -- rent, property taxes, etc. will not go down.

Meanwhile, young people who are not on Social Security will increase their income and improve their lifestyle when the economy gets better.

If the chained CPI is adopted, those now on Social Security or about to go on Social Security, especially those now in their 50s stand to lose a lot.

A loss of a thousand dollars a year is tremendous if your total income is less than $15,000 per years. It can mean having to choose between a house that is warm enough to be healthy of a meal that is nutritious enough to be healthy. Elderly people should not have to make that kind of a choice.

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
4. I know that will suck for many people, but its probably for the best
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 06:13 PM
Dec 2012

Their pain can be remedied within a week or two (if Congress gets their act together, I know thats a tall order), but I cant think of another way to force concessions on the defense budget, can you?

And thats where the budget most needs cutting.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
5. Breaking from Jason Easley: Obama drops the hammer
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 06:18 PM
Dec 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022051625?com=search

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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
7. He heard Richard Trumpka and others
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 06:57 PM
Dec 2012

They let him know in no uncertain terms that his offers to the Repubs sucked.

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