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Newt Gingrich now way out in front in Florida. I think he is the GOP nominee (Original Post) stevenleser Jan 2012 OP
they want the meanest s.o.b to take on Obama spanone Jan 2012 #1
I think you nailed it. stevenleser Jan 2012 #2
Palin Reduex mikekohr Jan 2012 #20
I dunno, Barney Frank has not lived that good a life. Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #3
he's the same old con artist luckyleftyme2 Jan 2012 #12
Wait till they find out all of his details RoccoR5955 Jan 2012 #4
There would be nothing left of the Gingrinch hifiguy Jan 2012 #5
I hope you guys are right. stevenleser Jan 2012 #15
Don't be so sure Poiuyt Jan 2012 #22
I do too. Raffi Ella Jan 2012 #6
Newt's problem is his ballot exposure. Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #7
He's not on the ballot in Virginia. KamaAina Jan 2012 #26
He's not on the ballot in Virginia and Missouri nt ecstatic Jan 2012 #27
You may be right but... Spazito Jan 2012 #8
but 30% of the votes have been cast already by absentee Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 #9
That is the one wrinkle. It will be interesting to see how it shakes out. stevenleser Jan 2012 #11
Still a long way from super Tuesday Major Nikon Jan 2012 #10
I really think the Repug electorate has decided they dont care stevenleser Jan 2012 #18
Romney's head is probably spinning around. Gingrich has stopped him and is on his way AlinPA Jan 2012 #13
Newt's got two enormous problems jeff47 Jan 2012 #14
Early days yet. I wouldn't start figuring on a MineralMan Jan 2012 #16
I don't think so. The right-most 40% of the party has been dying for someone to rally around and I stevenleser Jan 2012 #17
Rep. Grayson was on The Ed Schultz Show and he said Ilsa Jan 2012 #19
Stop it! You're giving me a hard-on, and my wife has to work late tonight! 11 Bravo Jan 2012 #21
February is long month this year. Plenty of time for Newt to open his mouth again. Bruce Wayne Jan 2012 #23
Barf. nt tsuki Jan 2012 #24
too early to say--remember at start of SC, Mitt was leading in the polls. book_worm Jan 2012 #25
Sadly, Newt will not be the nominee eissa Jan 2012 #28
If I were like Romney, I would say "$10,000 bet?" stevenleser Jan 2012 #29
 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
3. I dunno, Barney Frank has not lived that good a life.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 01:13 PM
Jan 2012

Mitt has so much money he can drag this out a while and Newt might have a "Dean Scream" moment.

Nevada might be good for Mitt since he has roots to Utah, and Michigan a week before Super Tuesday too.


I think both are terrible candidates so I really don't care that much. I think the way to run against Newt is to run against Reagan and his legacy. I would love to destroy that myth once and for all so I guess I would rather have Newt win, but Mitt is fatally flawed too.


luckyleftyme2

(3,880 posts)
12. he's the same old con artist
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 01:30 PM
Jan 2012

the two sides of NEWT

NEWT HAS TWO SIDES : WHAT HE CLAIMS AND THE FACTS!

And with all the current bank bailout deals which are destroying our nation from within, do we not recall that Newt Gingrich is the Granddaddy of bailing out banks and set the stage for bank bailouts back in 1991 when he hooked up with other progressive RINOs in Congress to pave the way for bailing out savings and loan institutions to the tune of $40 billion?

How about the $52 billion for agriculture program subsidies and food stamps? Is this not spitting upon the defined and limited powers granted to Congress? And, what part of our Constitution allows federal revenue to be appropriated for public housing and “community development”? Or the $ 200 billion plus Gingrich voted for the Departments of Labor, HHS, and Education? Do these misappropriations of federal revenue supported by Gingrich not bother real conservatives? I’m more than certain they do not disturb RINOs and progressives, as a matter of fact RINOs and progressives embrace these misappropriations

WHAT TO BELIEVE? NO PROBLEM JUST CHECK HIS RECORD ! SEE HOW HE LEFT WASHINGTON IN 1998!

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
4. Wait till they find out all of his details
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 01:14 PM
Jan 2012

Then it will be more the other way.
If Noot does get the nod, I'd like to see him confront Obama in a debate. Obama would have Noot's lunch for him.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
5. There would be nothing left of the Gingrinch
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 01:19 PM
Jan 2012

but a pair of smoking shoes, like the cop who looked into the trunk in "Repo Man."

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
15. I hope you guys are right.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 03:36 PM
Jan 2012

Sometimes the electorate surprises you. I dont think independants and moderates will appreciate Newt's snarkiness, but again, sometimes folks surprise you. Like when they voted for 'W'. And yes, I know he didnt win. Still, 49% of the country voting for that idiot was surprising.

Poiuyt

(18,125 posts)
22. Don't be so sure
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 07:26 PM
Jan 2012

Newt is very intelligent, and mean. He can handle himself quite well in a debate. Obama is intelligent but not so mean. It will be up to the liberal PACs to reveal what Newt is really like.

Raffi Ella

(4,465 posts)
6. I do too.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 01:20 PM
Jan 2012

It's hilarious listening to the GOP establishment tear him apart. Romney is especially funny with his sputtering indignation about how BAD Gingrich is. I read that Gingrichs' camp has started telling Romney he needs to back off Gingrich so as not to hurt him in the general -

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
7. Newt's problem is his ballot exposure.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 01:22 PM
Jan 2012

I'm not sure what the numbers are, but apparently Newt is not running in all of the states? If so, I'd be interested in knowing what states he's not on the ballot and how many delegates are not available to him. It would be hilarious if Newt continues to clean Mitt's clock, but can't get a nominating majority of delegates because he missed the deadlines to be on the ballots.

Spazito

(50,349 posts)
8. You may be right but...
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 01:24 PM
Jan 2012

Romney was way ahead in South Carolina after the New Hampshire primary and look what happened. There are still 8 days to the vote and, as we have seen, anything can happen and probably will, lol.

President Obama will beat either of them, Romney or Gingrich, so I am just stocking up on while watching the circus that is the repub primary.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
10. Still a long way from super Tuesday
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 01:27 PM
Jan 2012

Gingrich hasn't really been a target for that long, considering all the other drivers that have had a turn driving the clown car. Once the public starts getting educated on all of Newt's fuckups and flip-flops not to mention his mental breakdowns, he's not going to be so attractive even to the rubes.

Really the best case scenario is that the GOP nomination will remain in contention till super Tuesday. This will deplete the GOP super PACs and kill any monetary advantage they might have had in the general election. Newt would certainly be the easiest to defeat, but a cash starved Romney will be almost as easy to defeat.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
18. I really think the Repug electorate has decided they dont care
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:59 PM
Jan 2012

Anything thrown at him will be dismissed as coming from that biased Liberal media.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
13. Romney's head is probably spinning around. Gingrich has stopped him and is on his way
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 01:42 PM
Jan 2012

to the nomination. Santorum and Paul can't touch him either.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
14. Newt's got two enormous problems
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 01:44 PM
Jan 2012

1) He's not on the ballot everywhere. Hard to get delegates when people can't vote for you.

2) He hasn't really been attacked yet. GOP establishment + Romney are now going to pull out the knives. In response, Newt will make a nuclear blast look mild. Newt is at his least appealing when he's counter-attacking and he is fundamentally unable to resist the urge to counter-attack. Plus, all his dirt will start coming out.

That said, as a Democrat I would love for Newt to be the nominee. Obama would crush him.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
16. Early days yet. I wouldn't start figuring on a
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 03:38 PM
Jan 2012

candidate until after Super Tuesday. If the GOP elite want Romney, they'll get Romney, I think.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
17. I don't think so. The right-most 40% of the party has been dying for someone to rally around and I
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:17 PM
Jan 2012

think they have finally and permanently decided on Newt.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
19. Rep. Grayson was on The Ed Schultz Show and he said
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 06:25 PM
Jan 2012

Gingrich has a long way to go to catch up. He said that Floridians do a lot of absentee/ early voting, and so most of those votes would go to Mitt.

Bruce Wayne

(692 posts)
23. February is long month this year. Plenty of time for Newt to open his mouth again.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 07:32 PM
Jan 2012

It's not like he's about to run out of scandals. Everything Mittens has on him is gonna be coming out now. Of course Mitt has no real punch in him. But he does have Karl Rove & Fox and the full nasty Rightwing establishment on his side now. Newt has only the Tea Party amateurs and his own unpleasant working demeanor to rely on until the Super Tuesday primaries. There's plenty of time for this volatile field to shake itself up again.

Newt's the favorite, to be sure, but he ain't no show-in yet.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
28. Sadly, Newt will not be the nominee
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:19 PM
Jan 2012

Oh, how I wish he could be, but the numbers aren't in his favor. Even if he takes Florida, he's not on the ballot in Virginia, and most likely will not win the northern states (not as many evangelicals), and definitely not the western ones (higher population of Mormons west of the Mississippi.) Still, I hope he does as much damage as possible until Super Tuesday

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