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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:50 AM Dec 2012

FBI Investigated Occupy Movement as 'Domestic Terrorists, Criminals'

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/12/23



The FBI organized a nationwide law enforcement investigation and monitoring of the Occupy Wall Street movement beginning in August of 2011.

Just released heavily-redacted documents revealing the FBI's actions were obtained by the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund (PCJF) via a Freedom of Information Act Request (FOIA). In some documents, the FBI refers to the Occupy Wall Street protests as a "criminal activity" and "domestic terrorism."

“This production, which we believe is just the tip of the iceberg, is a window into the nationwide scope of the FBI’s surveillance, monitoring, and reporting on peaceful protestors organizing with the Occupy movement,” stated Mara Verheyden-Hilliard, Executive Director of the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund (PCJF). “These documents show that the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security are treating protests against the corporate and banking structure of America as potential criminal and terrorist activity. These documents also show these federal agencies functioning as a de facto intelligence arm of Wall Street and Corporate America.”

The Partnership for Civil Justice Fund, a legal nonprofit that focuses on civil rights, said Saturday that the 112-pages of FBI documents are now available for public viewing here.

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/549516-fbi-spy-files-on-the-occupy-movement.html#document/p1

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FBI Investigated Occupy Movement as 'Domestic Terrorists, Criminals' (Original Post) xchrom Dec 2012 OP
I swear J. Edgar is still running the show . orpupilofnature57 Dec 2012 #1
Zombie Hoover Fumesucker Dec 2012 #3
I remember some poor naifs saying this wasn't happening back when it was happening Fumesucker Dec 2012 #2
+1 xchrom Dec 2012 #4
Naifs and worse. +1 n/t Catherina Dec 2012 #20
COINTELPRO never went away. hobbit709 Dec 2012 #5
This does show the FBI as the more terrifying organization. Festivito Dec 2012 #6
But the NRA is just fine with them. Squinch Dec 2012 #7
Yeah kenfrequed Dec 2012 #8
My guess is that they DO investigate those groups. Why would you assume they don't? randome Dec 2012 #10
History... kenfrequed Dec 2012 #15
The information about monitoring OWS was available via an FOI request. randome Dec 2012 #17
TYT covered this better than I could kenfrequed Jan 2013 #32
Who says they weren't investigated? randome Jan 2013 #33
'casue they frightened the PTB tk2kewl Dec 2012 #9
but the tea party got a pass. loyalkydem Dec 2012 #11
No, they watched and infiltrated them, too Recursion Dec 2012 #28
I would love proof of this loyalkydem Dec 2012 #29
Why, bless their lil ol' hearts. Imagine that. Who knew! Zorra Dec 2012 #12
You threaten Wall Street they pull out all the stops. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #13
K&R'd! snot Dec 2012 #14
Same as it ever was......... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #16
It has gotten much worse with NDAA, tho. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #22
But these guys are OK... Poiuyt Dec 2012 #18
They must be done with those pesky Quakers. nt RandiFan1290 Dec 2012 #19
Our government has chosen sides, woo me with science Dec 2012 #21
You say that as though the visible government has any say in the power structure. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #24
Yeah, you're right. nt woo me with science Dec 2012 #25
K&R! Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #23
The FBI's niche in finding more criminals among a crowd protesting Wall Street's indepat Dec 2012 #26
This may as well be the "Red Scare" of the McCarthy period.. AntiFascist Dec 2012 #27
but... but... warrprayer Dec 2012 #30
As far as I know the entire protest was 100% peaceful?? WTF? Remmah2 Dec 2012 #31
Most of the FBI documents state that it was a peaceful movement. randome Jan 2013 #34
I am shocked the nay Sayers nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #35

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
2. I remember some poor naifs saying this wasn't happening back when it was happening
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:59 AM
Dec 2012

Hey, I can be charitable sometimes.


kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
8. Yeah
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:17 AM
Dec 2012

Well you definitely have to investigate peace activists and lefties... I mean why would you want to investigate groups that actually carry out attacks? Like anti-abortion groups and racists?

I guess those of us that worry about this sort of thing have to rely on Morris Dees and SPLC rather than have actual federal protection.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
15. History...
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:28 PM
Dec 2012

The FBI has a long standing history of going after the left and an equally long history of dragging their heels and having to be ordered to investigate right wingers and racists.

I would ask that, in addition to your guess, whether you know how many agents have actually been assigned to fundamentalist Christian terrorists?

The very idea that they seem to routinely investigate peace activists and the occupy movement speaks volumes to me.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
17. The information about monitoring OWS was available via an FOI request.
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:37 PM
Dec 2012

Why doesn't someone make a request on behalf of the Tea Party?

The FBI is certainly not perfect but they have arrested white supremacists time and time again as well as shut down other hate groups.

EVERY large group of protesters is likely monitored. And when a group that doesn't have leaders is in the forefront of those protests, it makes sense to find out what they might be up to. Just because someone in that group says they are peaceful doesn't mean law enforcement should take their word for it. I'm sure the TP faithful say the same thing.

I see nothing nefarious about law enforcement doing their jobs to monitor large groups of people. Especially when there is the possibility of confrontation.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
32. TYT covered this better than I could
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:40 PM
Jan 2013

You do not investigate people just for exercising their constitutional rights.

The tea party wore tshirts explicitly stating things like "we came unarmed-this time" and brought assault weapons to their rallies. Oddly they were not heavily investigated.

If this was based on appearances and worries about security and violence and criminal behavoir then it shouldn't have required someone to report the teapsters.




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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
28. No, they watched and infiltrated them, too
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 09:31 PM
Dec 2012

The leaked docs from that were all over the right wing blogosphere a few years ago.

loyalkydem

(1,678 posts)
29. I would love proof of this
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:50 AM
Dec 2012

because as much of an avid follower of the news I am, I don't recall hearing ANY stories of the tea party being infiltrated. I smell BS from you Recursion.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
12. Why, bless their lil ol' hearts. Imagine that. Who knew!
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 10:32 AM
Dec 2012

Your corporate tithes taxpayer money at work!



dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
22. It has gotten much worse with NDAA, tho.
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:31 PM
Dec 2012

By labeling protestors as "terrorists" the current NDAA law could allow the "terrorists" to be arrested and detained forever.
See:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_final_battle_20121223/

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
24. You say that as though the visible government has any say in the power structure.
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 02:38 PM
Dec 2012

Banks and wall street are the real power in this country. Banks call police and sheriffs to evict homeowners, not the city or government. And most definitely as your picture depicts, they will protect themselves. Gather at an intersection with banners and pamphlets and a bullhorn and zero cops. March on a bank and militarized, insectile police swarm swarm swarm.

"To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire

indepat

(20,899 posts)
26. The FBI's niche in finding more criminals among a crowd protesting Wall Street's
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:42 PM
Dec 2012

financial malfeasance than could be found among the culprits who orchestrated a near financial collapse necessitating the Federal Government to pour in trillions of dollars to stem the rampant tide is breathtaking. Unbfin' unbelievable.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
27. This may as well be the "Red Scare" of the McCarthy period..
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:56 PM
Dec 2012

except it is probably more terrifying to the PTB because a lot of average people now distrust banks and Wall Street. There is still a sleeping giant on the verge of waking.

 

Remmah2

(3,291 posts)
31. As far as I know the entire protest was 100% peaceful?? WTF?
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 02:14 PM
Dec 2012

I swear some of these LEO agencies are afraid of going after real criminals.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
34. Most of the FBI documents state that it was a peaceful movement.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:44 PM
Jan 2013

How would anyone know unless they looked into it? Take someone's word for it? Whose word? No one was in charge.

It's the FBI's job to find out if large groups of protesters are peaceful or not. Why denigrate them for doing their job and apparently agreeing that it was a peaceful movement?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
35. I am shocked the nay Sayers
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:48 PM
Jan 2013

Are nowhere to be found...

I wonder why?

As I said last year, my file grew by leaps and bounds and I was just reporting on them.

We were not paranoid. Given US history this not happening would have broken a trend.

Those raids, think Turner Raids...

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