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Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:13 PM Dec 2012

Some things that you may not think about when giving to the homeless.

Last edited Wed Dec 26, 2012, 05:21 PM - Edit history (4)

As many know, I was on the streets for roughly a year and a half. And it is rough out there. One needs to eat, to have a way to wash, a place to sleep. But there are some things people may not think of when they are wanting to help. I have been asked by others what else could help. So I thought to make this little list up, that way it will give you an idea what else can be donated that you may not think about.

Something that is a necessity is a good size pack. When you are out there, it is your home. It is something that is in short supply as well. So if you have a school pack that is the kind a high schooler would carry and no longer using it, please donate it. Even a rolling suitcase is useful. Rolling backpacks are a dream come true! And if you have a messenger bag that you don’t use, please donate it, that is great for carrying paperwork in. Believe me, when you are homeless, you have a lot of paperwork you need to try (the big word) and keep with you.

Another thing is dark color blankets. They are used all year long. The dark color works as camouflage at night while one sleeps. So, light or heavy in weight, if they are dark the homeless need it! If you have a dark sleeping bag you don’t want anymore, it would be great to. The street is not very soft.

Eye glasses. So many could use reading glass. Prescription glass as well. Many places have an eye glass drop off to help people that cannot afford them. Sun glasses, all year around need. One must protect from the sun and from the wind. So if you see some cheap reading glasses at one of those $1 shops, pick a couple up to donate to your local shelter to give out, the sunglasses too! You would not believe how much they are needed!

Pens and paper. I know that sounds odd. But when you are trying to find work or take down information to remember later, you need to have something to write on and with. Folders with pockets are great to. You will not believe how much paperwork is involved when you are in poverty and worse. Sometimes it feels like a full time office job just to get help.

Besides the usual cloths like jeans (jeans are a major thing for women and men) everyday shoes, and t-shirt (sweat shirt and coats in winter), the homeless also need cloths for getting work. Believe it or not there are people out there that are in need of black or khaki slacks, dress shoes, blouses/ white dress shirts, and everything else one need to dress for work are a must have to get a job. The dress codes for department stores, call centers, etc. are what is needed on top of the usual needed cloths. Oh, and underwear! For both sexes (bras are an extreme luxury for a homeless woman and you can’t look nice without one). You would not believe how little underwear can be found at the places that help with giving out cloths to the homeless.

Wallets, glasses cases and phone cases is something that are very useful. The government phones do not come with holders and that makes it hard to take care of. Those phones are your only way to reach help in an emergency and get contacted for a possible job. The phone holder, glasses case and wallets make it easier to keep your ID, food cards (many food banks that help with homeless food packs use an ID card and you also need to keep your food stamp card safe) and many other needed cards in and safe. And the glasses case to keep one’s glasses safe. If you have any that you don’t use anymore, please donate them. They will not go unwanted!

Another thing is Maxis and Tampons. Yes, the women need them. But did you know that the guys will carry Maxis’ as part of a makeshift first aid kit? Things to treat wounds are big. So is hygiene in general. Toilet paper is street currency. Someone has extra can of spaghetti that is worth one roll of TP.

Something else that is also worth its weight in gold are water bottles. The kind that you can fill in a park bathroom or drinking fountain. Having water is something that is very important, there had been many a death due to not having water to drink out there. I remember seeing many homeless get taken away in an ambulance due to being dehydrated. Eating utensils are a nice thought too! Spoon fork and knife is something that are so nice to have. And a can opener! Oh, I had been given cans of food but had no way to open it.

The last thing many don’t think of is pet food and leashes. That’s right, pet food and leashes. Many homeless have dogs, some even have cats. They are, for many, what is left of their family. The animals watch them and they watch out for the dog or cat. It is such an attachment that those that do have pets will not go to shelters due to the no pets allowed rule at many. It is that important, the pet is their family, what is left of love. I have seen the attachment so strong that if something happens to that pet, the owner will not be long for this world. The food to proper feed them and the leashes to keep legal. Another big thing that has started to happen is groups that are making sure that the homeless pets get shots and licenses. They ever try to help get then spaded or neutered. If you have a group in your area helping with this a donation to buy the shots are welcome in a big way!

For those that are looking for something to do, I hope that it gives you some ideas. To those that are reading this and remembers that you have some of this stuff and you aren’t using them, please donate!


Add on: Socks, Rain gear, Foot powder, batteries, sowing kit, flash lights and Walkman type radios.

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Some things that you may not think about when giving to the homeless. (Original Post) Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 OP
Wonderful words. Whovian Dec 2012 #1
glad that you are no longer on the streets, hope all is going well for you. niyad Dec 2012 #2
kick . . .n/t annabanana Dec 2012 #3
Thank you for these good suggestions. LiberalEsto Dec 2012 #4
Thanks for the list lunatica Dec 2012 #5
OMG, I have quite a bit of what you list and I do have a homeless "friend" who is paranoid schizo monmouth3 Dec 2012 #6
With her being a woman a dark blanket can mean the difference of life and death. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #10
Toothbrush! Daveparts3 Dec 2012 #7
Hygiene in general. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #9
Thank you for sharing your insight siligut Dec 2012 #8
K&R !!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #11
Thank you! GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #12
Thank you for this, madamesilverspurs Dec 2012 #13
I hope everyone shares it. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #16
Are their no prisons? And the union workhouses - are they still in operation? Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #14
Ah, A Christmas Carol. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #15
AND SOCKS!!! Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #17
And foot powder to avoid the toe and nail rot. Lionessa Dec 2012 #34
Socks absolutely. Sometimes that's all they have for shoes. Just socks. calimary Dec 2012 #60
Sadly that is true. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #61
Signs for homeless listing these. ErikJ Dec 2012 #18
Soon you won't see anyone flying or shaking a can for anything. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #30
knr Douglas Carpenter Dec 2012 #19
Thank you for this list, LFR. Aristus Dec 2012 #20
I think that is the most over-looked necessity of the homeless and impoverished: me b zola Dec 2012 #26
That is something many forget. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #50
That's what people like that don't understand (or refuse to understand...): Aristus Dec 2012 #62
Very informative underpants Dec 2012 #21
What orgs to give to? nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #22
look in your local phone book or google search for your area. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #33
A lot of food banks also do much more, serving as community resource centers pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #46
Great post. Thank you for taking the time to write it. Politicub Dec 2012 #23
It is so sad that this OP is so necessary today. Live and Learn Dec 2012 #24
and money .... shireen Dec 2012 #25
Be careful doing that depending on your area. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #45
thanks for the tips shireen Dec 2012 #68
K&R Jamastiene Dec 2012 #27
... Mnemosyne Dec 2012 #28
I made friends with a homeless guy FiggyJay Dec 2012 #29
That is the other currency on the street. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #49
one can NEVER underestimate the importance of "squares" datasuspect Dec 2012 #79
thanks for the post otherone Dec 2012 #31
Flash light and batteries. Lionessa Dec 2012 #32
Good one! So is a radio. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #38
This isn't the exact brand, reflection Dec 2012 #78
K & R !!! - Thank You For That !!! WillyT Dec 2012 #35
how about umbrellas or anything else if it rains ? JI7 Dec 2012 #36
Best thing for the rain is things like the those rain tarps Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #37
A kick due to add on on list. n/t Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #39
Excellent info. Will share with my scout groups cpamomfromtexas Dec 2012 #40
Thank you! Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #41
Thanks for the excellent information. senseandsensibility Dec 2012 #42
Sadly, the need is all year long. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #43
Are gently used ohheckyeah Dec 2012 #51
YES! Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #52
I usually give clothes ohheckyeah Dec 2012 #53
K&R Squinch Dec 2012 #44
Thank you wellstone dem Dec 2012 #47
K+R. Thank you. RedCappedBandit Dec 2012 #48
There is a homeless woman who sleeps a block from my home. Hatchling Dec 2012 #54
Many cops don't usually bother homeless women due to the lack of places for them in many areas. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #57
definitely bookmarking. liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #55
Thanks for the tips. Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2012 #56
Thank you Digit Dec 2012 #58
Great way to start. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #59
Thank you for this - only someone who has been there can really know. Raksha Dec 2012 #63
Great tips upi402 Dec 2012 #64
awesome list LittleGirl Dec 2012 #65
St Vincent De Paul Thrift Stores in Tucson Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #99
K&R SunSeeker Dec 2012 #66
Thank you. SheilaT Dec 2012 #67
kr Norrin Radd Dec 2012 #69
This is one of the best posts I have found on DU. Thank you. kelliekat44 Dec 2012 #70
I will start going through my closets today. tblue Dec 2012 #71
My local food bank issues "Wish Lists". These are great because... Walk away Dec 2012 #72
If our 1% government cannot provide shelter for the homeless, it could at least merrily Dec 2012 #73
oh good point on the pop top can goods SmileyRose Dec 2012 #86
Walk in centers. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #94
Great OP. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #74
Good suggestions. tradecenter Dec 2012 #75
What is a "massager bag," please? reflection Dec 2012 #76
Right - she misspelled "messenger bag." Raksha Dec 2012 #81
Fixed it. Sorry about that. n/t Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #93
Great thread! Remmah2 Dec 2012 #77
knr. and thank you! nt G_j Dec 2012 #80
Thanks for posting. You've opened my eyes. hamsterjill Dec 2012 #82
Having been homeless myself last year, I can give you a few reasons why... HamstersFromHell Dec 2012 #84
I hope you do expand upon your thoughts and post the results as a new OP. Raksha Dec 2012 #88
Thank you for the information. hamsterjill Dec 2012 #89
I know, people don't think when it comes to the food thing. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #90
There are a lot of reasons. But here are a few. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #95
The grandkids libodem Dec 2012 #83
Churches are a great place Iwillnevergiveup Dec 2012 #85
Please do. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #96
best post I have ever seen on DU SmileyRose Dec 2012 #87
THANK YOU for thee guidance! loyalsister Dec 2012 #91
Please do! Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #92
kick Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #97
thank you so much for these tips watch the sky Dec 2012 #98
Kick. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #100

niyad

(113,527 posts)
2. glad that you are no longer on the streets, hope all is going well for you.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:18 PM
Dec 2012

thank you for this list--truly helpful

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
4. Thank you for these good suggestions.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:20 PM
Dec 2012

I have extra eyeglass cases.
Dollar Tree sells leashes and lots of other useful things.
I go to a lot of garage sales and can pick up things for next to nothing, like eating utensils.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
5. Thanks for the list
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:21 PM
Dec 2012


There was a time in my life when I was poor enough that I couldn't afford food, but I was never homeless.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
6. OMG, I have quite a bit of what you list and I do have a homeless "friend" who is paranoid schizo
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:22 PM
Dec 2012

and acts out without her meds. She's a grand ole gal and we speak to each other all of the time when I see her. This will be so helpful to her. She is the kind also that I could give her this stuff and she will make sure those who need it will get it. Thank you so much for posting this. I worry about the homeless, it's getting cold at night down here and I wonder where they're going if anywhere at all. Thanks again...

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
10. With her being a woman a dark blanket can mean the difference of life and death.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:35 PM
Dec 2012

Dark cloths to wear at night too. A woman MUST stay hidden at night.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
9. Hygiene in general.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:32 PM
Dec 2012

Those small bottles are the best. Easy to carry. That is the big thing, the ability to put in a pack without taking a lot of space.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
16. I hope everyone shares it.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 06:04 PM
Dec 2012

Many don't think about stuff like this. Even the newly homeless. The more info that gets out, the more easier it will be for many. Thinking of the little stuff is the last thing many think of when they first become homeless. When they do relies they need it, they don't know how to get it. The need for it is so great that when they go to try and find it, it is gone. I remember trying to get sanitary napkins. It was so hard! I was lucky that another homeless woman happen to get a whole box form her last shelter visit that she gave me some.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
15. Ah, A Christmas Carol.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:54 PM
Dec 2012

A book that is one of the first to look at the problem.
It is fitting to think about all year long.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
17. AND SOCKS!!!
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 06:36 PM
Dec 2012

I can't believe I forgot socks on the list! You wear them out so quick. That and they help keep your feet healthy. You have to watch out for your feet!

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
61. Sadly that is true.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:54 AM
Dec 2012

Many don't have any shoes or coats or even long pants. It is hard to get on the streets. Many don't know where to go get these things.


However, those with shoes are in bad need for socks due to keeping their feet healthy. When you are being chased by a gang of teenagers, you need good feet. I was lucky I was hidden well enough not to be seen when I first encounter some of these type of kids. Many ar not that lucky.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
18. Signs for homeless listing these.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 06:39 PM
Dec 2012

Maybe somebody could make signs listing these items for homeless sign holders at intersections.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
30. Soon you won't see anyone flying or shaking a can for anything.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 08:02 PM
Dec 2012

Many laws has and are going into effect that will punish the flyer's for do it. There are some places that will fine you for helping them.

Shaking a can= asking people for money or food as they walk by.
Flying= standing at the side of the road with a sign.

Aristus

(66,446 posts)
20. Thank you for this list, LFR.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 06:48 PM
Dec 2012

You probably know I work in a medical clinic that provides health care for the homeless.

If people could just follow me around for a single day, it would open their eyes to the realities of life in the homeless community.

The most important thing to remember about homeless people is that they are people. People just as deserving of dignity, kindness, and respect as anyone who has a roof over their heads.

I can't tell you how many of my patients have expressed gratitude that they have a place where they can go and be treated like a human being. I don't treat my patients grudgingly, like recipients of charity reluctantly given, but as people with whom I have a relationship, and am always glad to see.

I'm glad you're off the streets, LFR. There is hope for everyone, no matter how low they have been beaten down by life...

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
26. I think that is the most over-looked necessity of the homeless and impoverished:
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 07:25 PM
Dec 2012

To be treated with dignity.

Thank you and the best of the Holiday season to you

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
50. That is something many forget.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 11:23 PM
Dec 2012

I can not tell you how many times I had things thrown at me from car window or hear people yell "Get a Job". I can tell you that it hurts.

Aristus

(66,446 posts)
62. That's what people like that don't understand (or refuse to understand...):
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:01 AM
Dec 2012

Many of my patients have jobs; they're usually those 'Labor Ready' things. You know - work today, get paid today - so it earns them an income. But it's rarely enough to get them off the streets. Not when you need first-and-last-month's rent in advance, credit check, damage deposit, criminal background check, all of that.

Don't anybody here ever demand that a homeless person "get a job". Or I will reach through this computer monitor and throttle you!

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
33. look in your local phone book or google search for your area.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 08:28 PM
Dec 2012

You can not believe how many little places there are local that try to help. Some of your local thrift stores have a special "back room" just for giving out cloths to the homeless. And some restaurants may be restaurants by day, but when the sun goes down, they become a soup kitchen.

They are hard to find, sometimes it is hard for the homeless to, but they do some of the best help.
For example there is a group in Springfield Mo called Moccasin Mile Outreach, they do have a facebook page. They mainly help with homeless vets. They look at each person differently. Because they see that every case is deferent.
Then there is a place in Tucson AZ called Guadeloupe's that give out food for the homeless. I mean that they make a large sack lunch that will last all day long so you can have lunch dinner and breakfast out of it.

Just look around and help them in your community. The best way to help is in your own back yard.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
46. A lot of food banks also do much more, serving as community resource centers
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 11:04 PM
Dec 2012

The one in my community provides a wide range of services and has now taken over operation of the local 120-bed homeless shelter (which has been filled to capacity since the advent of colder weather in September).

Today we served 480 Christmas dinners at the resource center and provided toys for all the children. The volunteer coordinator for the event was worried about not having enough help because only about 30 volunteers had signed up in advance. But the center has a website and FB page and is very good at networking throughout the community, so the coordinator needn't have worried. Well over 100 people showed up to volunteer.

We also have a quarterly outreach to veterans that follows the Stand Down for Homeless Veterans model. The veterans outreach is independent of the resource center, but the center's director happens to serve as co-chair of the committee that runs the outreach program.

For anyone looking for info on resources available in a community, the web makes it a lot easier to find these days.



Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
45. Be careful doing that depending on your area.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 11:01 PM
Dec 2012

Last edited Tue Dec 25, 2012, 11:51 PM - Edit history (2)

Sadly there are laws in many placed that will arrest them and fine you. Also be careful of the amount. Money is a blessing and a curse. If a darker homeless person see you give the money and see mutable bills, the person you gave it to becomes a target.
The streets are a dark and dangerous place.

If you do give money, please make it 1 bill and folded up. That way the amount cannot be seen by others.

Dark person=street slang for bad guy, thug, all around bullies

If you hear a street person say "He's a dark." to another homeless person about someone, you may want to watch the one they are talking about to.

Also their is different slang for different areas of the country. If you volunteer/work at any of the soup kitchens or shelters, you will pick it up.

shireen

(8,333 posts)
68. thanks for the tips
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 04:42 AM
Dec 2012

Usually, there aren't any other homeless people around. The guys i encounter are usually at intersections with traffic lights. Sometimes, I think it's an organized effort, that they take turns at different intersections. One time i saw two guys together, they were quite friendly with each other.

It's always one bill, folded.


FiggyJay

(55 posts)
29. I made friends with a homeless guy
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 07:48 PM
Dec 2012

down in Kansas City. All he wanted was a cigarette. I gave him a couple packs and we had a good chat. He was a wonderful person!! But now I feel really guilty about only giving him cigarettes.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
38. Good one! So is a radio.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:25 PM
Dec 2012

I forgot that due to my great eye sight in the dark. Reason I have to have to have sun glasses. But that is a big tool on the street! And the batteries are great because some homeless have radios. A radio is very important because you need to know what is going on around you. Knowing the weather and news can mean a lot.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
78. This isn't the exact brand,
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:00 PM
Dec 2012

but I purchased 5 of the Red Cross equivalents last year and gave them to one of the local missions I have a relationship with. With these, you don't need batteries, plus they have hand cranks and USB ports to charge cell phones. I have one for my house also for when the power goes out.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12252547&clickid=prod_cs

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
37. Best thing for the rain is things like the those rain tarps
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:11 PM
Dec 2012

Something you can throw on and another to cover your pack and sleeping stuff. An umbrella helps, but the other is better for sleeping in if there is rain at night. The rain is the best time to sleep without getting hassled. No one want to be out in it.

That is also why large garbage sacks are great! The large black ones to place your stuff in and hide it at night. Dark colors are your friend at night. Many a nasty group of teenagers walked right by me, with their bats in their hands looking for targets.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
41. Thank you!
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:35 PM
Dec 2012

That is what I was hoping would happen. People sharing and looking at things they don't use or need.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!

senseandsensibility

(17,114 posts)
42. Thanks for the excellent information.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:37 PM
Dec 2012

So many want to help during the holiday season, but these are great ideas for all year around.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
43. Sadly, the need is all year long.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:46 PM
Dec 2012

The holiday season is when most of what is needed comes in. Summer is the hard time. It is hot and is the hardest time to find a place to sleep without getting hassled.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
51. Are gently used
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:03 AM
Dec 2012

clothes acceptable? I have some things that have hardly been worn. I have some shoes that were worn once and a couple of coats I worse once or twice.

I'm not sure where to take things in this area but I'll look around. I can certainly purchase some toiletry items at the Family Dollar Store to give as well. We cut back on Christmas gift giving this year - we didn't really need or even want anything in particular so I could use some of that money to help.

I need to find a place where I can volunteer to help.


ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
53. I usually give clothes
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:15 AM
Dec 2012

to my sisters, but frankly, they don't need them either and could really afford to buy their own. I'll do some checking around for an organization.

Hatchling

(2,323 posts)
54. There is a homeless woman who sleeps a block from my home.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:23 AM
Dec 2012

It's avery public spot, which makes it safer because the police are always patrolling this street for hookers. FOr some reson, they don't roust her from this spot, although I have seen them roust homeless men.

You post inspired me to take a heavy long length peacoat I have has hangin in my closet for 6 years(waiting to lose weight so it will git me0 and walk it down to her tonight.

She was amazed. She kept asking me if I was sure or if I wanted to change my mind.

I had considered asking her in on the cold or rainy nights but after talking to her on other occasions, I found she is an unmedicated schizophenic. I had two others like that in my life and they can be really touchy to deal with.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
57. Many cops don't usually bother homeless women due to the lack of places for them in many areas.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:31 AM
Dec 2012

And keeping them in sight can keep other things from happening. Many a homeless women is found dead in dark alleyways. And mental illness is a BIG problem. When you can't afford the meds, you can't get them. And getting on a program takes time. So, till one can get the meds and get stable it is hard to get work. It is one of those vicious cycles.

Digit

(6,163 posts)
58. Thank you
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:06 AM
Dec 2012

Although I barely have enough money to take care of myself, I would like to help others less fortunate and I have some of the items on your list.

I even have my mothers prosthetic leg but found they can't be used in this country for some reason. I haven't searched for a way to donate it for years (I forgot I still had it until just now), but if a homeless person could use it, I would be delighted.

Unfortunately, I don't know how to get items to people who need them. Should I contact a homeless shelter and ask?

Raksha

(7,167 posts)
63. Thank you for this - only someone who has been there can really know.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:08 AM
Dec 2012

I've been close to homeless at times, but never actually on the street. Bookmarking to save and spread around as widely as possible.

upi402

(16,854 posts)
64. Great tips
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:32 AM
Dec 2012

I always worry about enabling an addiction by giving cash. I usually research the charity to ensure it doesn't pay for some asshole's shack-rabbit condo.

LittleGirl

(8,291 posts)
65. awesome list
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:34 AM
Dec 2012

Thanks so much for posting. We're in the process of moving so all of our stuff is in storage. We're also in Tucson now so as soon as we get moved and our stuff unloaded and put away, I'm looking for the nearest shelter to help out and donate. I can't imagine being a woman and homeless. It's just not safe for women in this country anymore and to be homeless? I can't imagine. I would never sleep except through exhaustion. I have old glasses, sun glasses, an old walkman with batteries, I can donate dark blankets, coats, dress clothes for interviewing and will even donate money to go to Goodwill to get whatever I miss. Thanks so much and good luck.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
99. St Vincent De Paul Thrift Stores in Tucson
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 07:40 PM
Dec 2012

They are one of those thrift stores that have one of those "back rooms" I have talked about in some of the other posts.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
67. Thank you.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:34 AM
Dec 2012

You have given me much to think about.

I am involved in a local program to help feed the homeless, and it's something I get great joy from. I think very hard about what I will fix when I am cooking for them. I try very hard to make things that I myself would want to eat. I get many compliments on my food. I also consider these people our guests, at the homeless shelter. I cannot begin to imagine what it must be like for them.

I've been doing this for about four years now, and I should be doing more. I appreciate your suggestions. I know that homelessness is a huge problem, with multiple causes, and few things make me angrier than the people who airily proclaim that the homeless are homeless by choice. I can tell, as I'm serving food to our guests, that some have been on the streets for a long time, some are new to this, and some . . . well I can't tell. I do believe that each one has an individual story and that they probably would much rather have a permanent place to live. I try very hard to treat the guests with dignity and respect. Because at the end of my shift I get to go home to my small home, but it's mine, and I'm in almost no danger of losing it and living on the street. They don't have this luxury.

So now I think I'll contact the homeless shelter I work with, and ask what they most need in the clothes closet and get some of those things.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
72. My local food bank issues "Wish Lists". These are great because...
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:58 AM
Dec 2012

you can match them up with things you have and you can buy things that are desperately needed. If this month's list asks for a type of diapers or formula I can clip coupons, shop and drop off exactly what people really need.

I loved when Occupy Sandy ran that wedding registry and you could give the actual product someone asked for and needed.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
73. If our 1% government cannot provide shelter for the homeless, it could at least
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 11:41 AM
Dec 2012

provide public place where people can use a john, shower, do laundry and fill water bottles.

People who do not want to provide at least that much are inhuman, IMO

As far as canned goods. look for those pop top cans, too, just in case someone loses his or her can opener.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
94. Walk in centers.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 06:48 PM
Dec 2012

The are few and far between, but they are out there. They are walk in centers also called day centers, they have washers, dryers, showers and a few have cloths banks or free stores to get cloths to the homeless that are needing them. Some even go as far as to give a meal a day. They are few and far between, but they are life savers when you need those services and need information for help.

 

tradecenter

(133 posts)
75. Good suggestions.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 11:52 AM
Dec 2012

We have alot of those items laying around that I'll pack up and take to our local church that helps the homeless.

Last night we invited our local homeless to our station house for a christmas dinner, the look of gratefullness on their faces was priceless.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
76. What is a "massager bag," please?
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 11:54 AM
Dec 2012

I confess I don't know. I googled it and the only hits I got were "did you mean messenger bag" which would make sense since you mentioned paperwork. But I actually have two old messenger bags with shoulder straps that I was wondering what to do with before I read your post.

Raksha

(7,167 posts)
81. Right - she misspelled "messenger bag."
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:40 PM
Dec 2012

I just copied the lead note into MS Word and I'm in the process of proofreading it and fixing the typos and spelling errors. That one was especially confusing.

When I'm finished I'll send a clean copy of the OP to Lady Freedom Returns by PM and see what (if anything) she wants to do with it. Maybe someone has already beat me to it, but I'm kind of a compulsive proofreader. Right now I'm fixing it up the way I'd repost it on FreeCycle Cafe and elsewhere.

 

Remmah2

(3,291 posts)
77. Great thread!
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 11:59 AM
Dec 2012

Thanks!

A few new ideas for my list.

Here's one: one gallon freezer weight zip lock bags, for keeping personal gear dry. (Old camper's trick.)

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
82. Thanks for posting. You've opened my eyes.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:44 PM
Dec 2012

While I already donate regularly, there are several items, etc. that I'd not thought about before. So thanks for educating me by sharing your first hand knowledge.

I hope that your own situation is now better and secure. The idea that anyone in America has no bed at night is something that both amazes me and angers me. We have to insist that we all do better!!!

Can you give me some insight into why some homeless people don't want to go to the shelters that exist? We have a very large, well funded homeless shelter in San Antonio. The shelter has employees and volunteers who actually go out into the homeless community, especially when it gets cold, to try to persuade people to come to the shelter. There are many homeless that simply will not come. I know of one older gentleman who several people have tried to help, and he's not open to receiving help. Is there anything that can be done so that more people would take advantage of what is available????

HamstersFromHell

(1,354 posts)
84. Having been homeless myself last year, I can give you a few reasons why...
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:03 PM
Dec 2012

During my 3 weeks on the street, I found out a lot I never knew about the homeless, as well as totally changing my own opinion.

Many shelters are tied to religious organizations, and often have a "catch" to being able to stay the night...you have to sit through prayer services. I can see why some would not care to have that shoved down their throats, as they already feel like they have been abandoned by "the powers that be".

Another is shelter "rules" only allowing one "bag" into the shelter. I lost better than 3/4 of my clothes due to such rules...it's either get it packed down to one bag to get in and abandon the rest, or be denied entrance.

The one thing that really chaps me is people who have no idea of how the system works complaining about the homeless...I have a dear friend online who works at a convenience store and she went on a big Facebook rant about homeless buying candy and chips with food stamps when they "obviously" could have bought "more nutritious" things. In my case, no food allowed in the night shelters, period, and where are you going to put sacks of groceries so you won't have them stolen from you during the day? In my case, the quick marts were right around the corner from the shelters. The grocery stores? 2 mile walk one way. The entire system negates trying to do anything more than surviving.

I guess I should pull my thoughts together on this as well and make a lengthy post about it. I felt I managed to slip through every damned crack in the system.

Raksha

(7,167 posts)
88. I hope you do expand upon your thoughts and post the results as a new OP.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 04:39 PM
Dec 2012

Even the best-intentioned people in the world don't seem to understand how the system is rigged, as you say, to negate doing anything more than surviving.

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
89. Thank you for the information.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 04:46 PM
Dec 2012

The shelter in San Antonio is not affiliated with any religious organization, but I'm sure there are "rules" and those rules probably conflict with some of the instances that you are sharing here. That's too bad. You'd think the people in charge of the shelter could assign temporary lockers or something perhaps.

It's really "easy" for someone like myself to believe that we understand the needs of the homeless, but there's no better teacher than to learn from those who have actually been there and done it themselves. I appreciate your insight.

I wish we could do better as a nation.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
90. I know, people don't think when it comes to the food thing.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 05:09 PM
Dec 2012

You don't have a way to keep it cool. Many shelters have a no food policy, even can food. You have to get what you can. Oh and supermarkets have a thing against packs by the way. Many cases the homeless only have the convenient store to get food at.
You see, the places to get food are spread around and you have to get to them. Many are located in places that are dangerous to sleep in so you end up going across town to eat then back to sleep. Not that easy when you are on foot.

One of the reasons some homeless won't go into shelters is due to having to loss a bag. If you have a page and a messenger bag that carries all the paper work you need, guess what? You have to dump stuff that you need.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
95. There are a lot of reasons. But here are a few.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:41 PM
Dec 2012

One reason is how long they have been on their own. Many have been hurt so bad that they can't trust other. Others are scared for what little they have. Some shelters have a one bag policy, that means if you have 2 small bags, you can only take one in with you. This is also the case for food stuff. Many shelters do not allow food to be brought in. You don't want to loss that so they don't go in.

Many have misdemeanor warrants for fly signs and trespassing for sleeping in places like parks past the time they are open. Many Shelters do background checks on those that come for help. They don't want to go to jail so they don't go in.

Then some have small pocket knives that are used for protection and for eating utensils, are afraid that the will get confiscated. Many shelters will tale them away and not give them back, some will take but give them back when you leave. But once bitten, twice shy. They won't go back.

Then we get into those that have pets. Many shelters have rules that pets are not allowed. The homeless have a choice, get rid of the dog or cat, or stay out. They are so close to their pets they will freeze before letting them go. Those animals are the last thing of family and love many have. So the shelter won't their family in, they won't go.

Then we have the religious aspect. There are many that don't want to be made to worship, many have become atheist due to feeling that God hates them. Others, because they are not Christian. They can not bring themselves to convert, to say, for shelter.

Then we enter the group that are VERY anti-social, will not talk, will have nothing to do with anyone or anything. Many times it is due to mental illness. Other times they have just been hurt that bad.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
83. The grandkids
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:42 PM
Dec 2012

Were in a church nativity play, so I went. The church was having a warm sock drive for the homeless.

I thought it was a very worthy project.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
85. Churches are a great place
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:13 PM
Dec 2012

to bring clothing and other needed items. The reason is that many of them regularly distribute meals on certain days at certain times. Mine passes out really great sack lunches every Monday, and at that time coats, shoes and sox, toiletries, etc. are also made available. I think we do a pretty good job, but if it's OK by you, Lady Freedom Returns, I'll forward your post to the person who organizes this work. Word of mouth is always great.

I appreciate the time you took to clue us in and am very, very happy that your own life has taken a turn for the better.

Huge K&R

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
92. Please do!
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 05:32 PM
Dec 2012

I want to get this infomation out and about. people can only help when they know what help is needed.

watch the sky

(129 posts)
98. thank you so much for these tips
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 06:08 PM
Dec 2012

I'm one of these people that give and get too damn many gifts but I've never "been there" and you clued me in. Best of luck to you.

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