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Anyone heard anything about this? (Original Post) Geoff R. Casavant Dec 2012 OP
Here's a link to the original story on local TV and CurtEastPoint Dec 2012 #1
Sacramento Bee version of the story... PoliticAverse Dec 2012 #2
Don't even know what to say: Control-Z Dec 2012 #3
This is why having a firearm is legal, constitutional, and important. Indydem Dec 2012 #4
3 armed guys at 3am were not just guessing at random... catnhatnh Dec 2012 #5
What kind of sleep-over includes both a 12 year old boy iemitsu Dec 2012 #6
strange.... wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #7
Yep, pretty strange. iemitsu Dec 2012 #8
2008 Suprme Court DC v. Heller protects home self defense Citizen Abroad Mar 2013 #9

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
3. Don't even know what to say:
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 08:50 PM
Dec 2012

"Thanks to the homeowner being armed and thinking quickly, the report was on a failed home invasion rather than a mass shooting at a child’s slumber party."

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
4. This is why having a firearm is legal, constitutional, and important.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:01 PM
Dec 2012

FOUR people tried to get into a persons home for God only knows what terrible purposes and a responsible, armed homeowner stopped them and saved his children.

Score one for us "gun nuts".

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
5. 3 armed guys at 3am were not just guessing at random...
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:16 PM
Dec 2012

...keep watching this until the whole truth comes out.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
6. What kind of sleep-over includes both a 12 year old boy
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:23 PM
Dec 2012

and a one year old boy?
I wonder what the intruders thought they would find in the home?

 

wildbilln864

(13,382 posts)
7. strange....
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:30 PM
Dec 2012

"....A Sacramento, Calif. homeowner recently defended not only himself, but several children that were having a sleepover at his house, when three men attempted to break into his home. According to a report on December 23, 2012, by News 10, at a little after 3:30 a.m. Saturday morning the suspects attempted to break into the home and opened fire."

opened fire?
on what, who?
then...
"The homeowner reacted quickly by grabbing his own gun and defending his home and the children inside."

9. 2008 Suprme Court DC v. Heller protects home self defense
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 12:18 AM
Mar 2013

This is being made into more of an issue than it is for several reasons.

1) It serves the purpose of the pro-gun lobby to make a big deal out of it

2) Facts and statistics do not support any frequency to suggest this is an ongoing risk to public.

3) In 2011 according to FBI Uniform Crime Reports there were 201 firearm related private citizen 'justifiable homicides' - this situation qualifies as such

4) The frequency of multiple attackers and victims is very rare. Chances are there is more to this story than a burglary.

5) The frequency of firearm use by private citizens in self defense has been proven to be a gross exaggeration with estimates of use upwards of 2.5 million times a year - the FBI only reports 10,266,737 Violent and property crimes with clearance rates ranging from a low of 11% */- for car theft to 68% for homicide - 2.5 M is 25%. Firearm injury rates are two to one of fatalities, this story is an example of that so around 600 persons were injured or killed in similar circumstance in 2011 - applying a two to one ratio to shots fired would suggest 1,800 circumstances where home owners discharged a weapon even if one were to apply 20 to 1 your final figure of firearm use in self defense is 36,000 far from 2.5 M. An estimate that is being accepted by both sides of the argument is 64,000

6) This event took place about ten days following Newtown - it is making a reappearance in the last week of March 2013 as if it were current, 3,053 people have died in firearm related violence in the interim.

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