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cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:46 PM Dec 2012

I spent most of my day today at the VA Hospital in Loma Linda, CA.

My Favorite Uncle is there, has been since Thursday. He's my Mom's Brother. I'm afraid they're going to tell us tomorrow that he has leukemia.

He was the Rebel when I was young... One of my Heroes. He had a motorcycle and a turbocharged Corvair. Then came Vietnam.

Life has been so unkind to him; Wounded in Vietnam, alcoholism, PTSD, lost and regained his family, and now this.

I just sat across the table from him on Thanksgiving and laughed as he told everyone about teasing me as a child. That man wasn't in the room today. Now I have to call my Mom. She doesn't know yet.

Fucking hell...

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I spent most of my day today at the VA Hospital in Loma Linda, CA. (Original Post) cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 OP
Hugs Stargazer09 Dec 2012 #1
I am so sorry cherokeeprogressive. annabanana Dec 2012 #2
This is a tough one- ellaydubya Dec 2012 #3
So sorry.... CherokeeDem Dec 2012 #4
You and your dear uncle are in my heart tonight, cherokeeprogressive catbyte Dec 2012 #5
CP- Words are a poor method cbrer Dec 2012 #6
I don't know what to say, so I'll just send good thoughts his way graywarrior Dec 2012 #7
... OneGrassRoot Dec 2012 #8
Understand. Those of us Vietnam vets who were young and naive, indoctrinated on WWII movies, jody Dec 2012 #9
those of us who sent you all off to that lying nightmare have some pretty clear ideas of the cost, niyad Dec 2012 #12
I've stood at attention while a bugle payed Taps, heard an Honor Guard fire 21 times, and gave jody Dec 2012 #14
Tell me something Jody. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #18
Never saw one personally but heard lots of tales. nt jody Dec 2012 #24
CP, sending you loads of hugs, and strength, to help in this very sad and trying time. all niyad Dec 2012 #10
Oh, sorry to hear. I hope the news will be better than you expect. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #11
Hopefully - it's treatable? calimary Dec 2012 #13
CP, hold on to them as long you can. (((hugs))) freshwest Dec 2012 #15
(((GOOD VIBES))) Odin2005 Dec 2012 #16
You guys are so f'n bitchin'... cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #17
You are doing a good thing... SoapBox Dec 2012 #19
Vibes to you and yours denbot Dec 2012 #20
Be grateful for the Thanksgiving memory... fadedrose Dec 2012 #21
So sorry. Big hugs. 840high Dec 2012 #22
Thank you for being a good American MightyMopar Dec 2012 #23
Hang in there CP.... ReRe Dec 2012 #25
I'm so sorry, CP. Raksha Dec 2012 #26
I hope the news won't be as bad as you fear, cp pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #27
Hope KT2000 Dec 2012 #28
Still praying.... ReRe Dec 2012 #29
How sad malaise Dec 2012 #30
I just lost a dear friend to cancer. Rex Dec 2012 #31
so sorry for all of you watch the sky Dec 2012 #32

ellaydubya

(354 posts)
3. This is a tough one-
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:55 PM
Dec 2012

At any time but especially during the holidays- I send positive thoughts your way. At least your Mom has you for support and that will help her tremendously.

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
4. So sorry....
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:04 PM
Dec 2012

Life can change so rapidly....we need to treasure each day we have with the people we care about.

Will keep you and your uncle in my thoughts.

 

cbrer

(1,831 posts)
6. CP- Words are a poor method
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:16 PM
Dec 2012

Of expressing heartfelt thanks to your uncle. And reaching out a supportive arm (figuratively) to you.


Fucking Hell indeed.

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
9. Understand. Those of us Vietnam vets who were young and naive, indoctrinated on WWII movies,
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:31 PM
Dec 2012

innocently trusting elected politicians to make the best moral decision, went into battle knowing we were protecting our Nation.

We found out later or quickly we had been misled.

Your Uncle and I are comrades having fought in the same battles - - for naught.

George W. Bush is remembered for the following and your Uncle and I are mere commas:

niyad

(113,336 posts)
12. those of us who sent you all off to that lying nightmare have some pretty clear ideas of the cost,
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:49 PM
Dec 2012

to all of you, and to those of us who were left behind, of that lying, miserable travesty of "a just war". Like you, we learned the lies very quickly, and, as family, loved ones, friends, watched so many of you suffer endlessly on your return. there are no words. . .

 

jody

(26,624 posts)
14. I've stood at attention while a bugle payed Taps, heard an Honor Guard fire 21 times, and gave
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:55 PM
Dec 2012

a slow salute one last time for one of my dear friends, and asked "Why God, Why?"

Not received an answer yet.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
18. Tell me something Jody.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 11:25 PM
Dec 2012

I'm not sure if my Uncle Don was pulling my leg, or playing on my arachnophobia, but he told me there were spiders over there that were big enough to make noise as they walked on the jungle floor.

Fuck me I wouldn't have slept a wink.

niyad

(113,336 posts)
10. CP, sending you loads of hugs, and strength, to help in this very sad and trying time. all
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:45 PM
Dec 2012

the best for your uncle, for your whole family. know that your DU family is here for you.

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
11. Oh, sorry to hear. I hope the news will be better than you expect.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:47 PM
Dec 2012

Sending good thoughts for you and your family.

calimary

(81,304 posts)
13. Hopefully - it's treatable?
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:54 PM
Dec 2012

Damn. Sorry to hear this, cherokeeprogressive.

A friend of ours just found out he has skin cancer - hopefully they caught it early enough. I hope there's a similar prognosis for your uncle.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
17. You guys are so f'n bitchin'...
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 11:23 PM
Dec 2012

DU needs a "reply all" button so those of us who want to say thanks for kind words can reach out to all who gave them.

It's going to be a very long day tomorrow as I wait for my Aunt's phone call.

Your words mean more than you'll ever know.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
21. Be grateful for the Thanksgiving memory...
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 11:56 PM
Dec 2012

where he laughingly remembers teasing you. His rough life even before leukemia did not affect his cheerfulness and he would want you not to be too sad. It's hard, but you have to be as loving - but tough - as he is...he probably knew something was up at that dinner.

We sure send our best ones to war, don't we?

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
25. Hang in there CP....
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:32 AM
Dec 2012

... we will be pulling for you here. I hope and pray right here and now that your Dear Uncle does not have Leukemia, and that whatever he is suffering from can be treated. Sounds like you're in a situation where you have to be strong for your Mom and for your Uncle's family, even though you feel like crumbling just like them. Listen, you try your hardest to be strong in the face of this situation, and then you come here and crumble. You now have hundreds of DUers who will give you all the support you need.
God bless and keep your Uncle in the palm of His hand.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
27. I hope the news won't be as bad as you fear, cp
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:58 AM
Dec 2012

Whatever happens, at least your uncle has you--and that probably means more to him than you know. Were I in his place, I know it would mean a lot to me.

What you're going through stirs up a lot of stuff for me. Vietnam again, and the profound sense of loss and grief that goes with it. Those I knew who died there (more than 60), and those we've lost in the aftermath--some by their own hand. Losing my little brother, who served with me in Vietnam, 2 years ago.

I've had a lot of personal experience with loss and grief, but I'm not sure I'm getting any better at dealing with it, or that I have any special wisdom to offer you.

If worse comes to worst, it may, in a way, be tougher on you than on your uncle. He's been through a lot, and he's a survivor. If he was in the jungle with the spiders, he may have been an Infantryman--which means he's been through some shit, and more shit being wounded. He probably lost friends there, and more over the years afterward. He probably has a lot of experience, himself, with loss and grief. And, like a lot of us, he's probably experienced amazement that he's still here.

As for his PTSD and substance abuse, a lot of us have been there, done that. But many of us recognize not only the negative and tragic consequences of that fucking war in our lives; we also see the positive consequences. On visits to schools to speak about the war, one thing i'd say was, "You didn't have to go to Vietnam to find your compassion. But it sure could add a lot of depth."

When you see your uncle again, you might ask him if he gained anything positive from his war experience. You said he regained his family, which is a striking development. Raising the question about the positive effects of Vietnam may be illuminating.

Let me say again:

Whatever happens, at least your uncle has you--and that probably means more to him than you know. Were I in his place, I know it would mean a lot to me.

And, when you see him again, tell him you ran into another VN vet online who says, "Welcome home, brother," and wishes him the best...



ReRe

(10,597 posts)
29. Still praying....
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 06:25 PM
Dec 2012

...how's it going?? Please update us on how your Uncle is when you can find time. God Bless...

watch the sky

(129 posts)
32. so sorry for all of you
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:14 PM
Dec 2012

and I hope it's not as bad as it sounds like it could be. Bad time of the year to get bad news like this and hope he recovers.

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