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Richardo

(38,391 posts) Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:57 AM Dec 2012

Conservative Judge: "Bring back assault weapons ban... with teeth this time."

You won't agree with everything in this op-ed, but...

Bring back the assault weapons ban, and bring it back with some teeth this time. Ban the manufacture, importation, sale, transfer and possession of both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Don't let people who already have them keep them. Don't let ones that have already been manufactured stay on the market. I don't care whether it's called gun control or a gun ban. I'm for it.

I say all of this as a gun owner. I say it as a conservative who was appointed to the federal bench by a Republican president. I say it as someone who prefers Fox News to MSNBC, and National Review Online to the Daily Kos. I say it as someone who thinks the Supreme Court got it right in District of Columbia vs. Heller, when it held that the 2nd Amendment gives us the right to possess guns for self-defense. (That's why I have mine.) I say it as someone who, generally speaking, is not a big fan of the regulatory state.

And:

"If we can't draw a sensible line on guns, we may as well call the American experiment in democracy a failure."

More here:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-burns-assault-weapons-ban-20121220,0,6774314.story

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Conservative Judge: "Bring back assault weapons ban... with teeth this time." (Original Post) Richardo Dec 2012 OP

Interesting pipoman Dec 2012 #1

+1 LP2K12 Dec 2012 #2

A ban on possession is the only thing that will work. You can't grandfather the tens of Flatulo Dec 2012 #3

And make those teeth extra sharp quinnox Dec 2012 #4

+1, n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #5

What shall we do? Shoot resisters with their own weapons? Demeter Dec 2012 #6

I think it would rarely, if ever, come to that. I've heard people talking shit over the years Flatulo Dec 2012 #7

As a Chinese co-worker once said to me, in regard to living under a totalitarian regime... slackmaster Dec 2012 #8

pipoman

(16,038 posts)

1. Interesting

Reply to Richardo (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:53 AM

Dec 2012

I'd like to see his plan to buy the millions of these in private possession. I'd also like to see what definition of "assault weapon" he plans to use to do this.

LP2K12

(885 posts)

2. +1

Reply to Richardo (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:57 AM

Dec 2012

Sharing this.

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)

3. A ban on possession is the only thing that will work. You can't grandfather the tens of

Reply to Richardo (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 09:59 AM

Dec 2012

Millions of weapons that are in circulation.

All the 1994 AWB accomplished was to sell millions of guns before the ban took effect.

This guy is on the right track. We also have to ban the possession etc of high capacity magazines, and limit owners to two five-round mags per weapon.

Gun owner here who is on board with effective restrictions on ownership. Cosmetic shit like bayonet lugs and flash suppressors and pistol grips are meaningless and easy to circumvent. I don't care what a gun looks like. I do care if some crazy kid can take 1000 rounds of ammo to a playground and get off 120 shots in under a minute.

quinnox

(20,600 posts)

4. And make those teeth extra sharp

Reply to Richardo (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:01 AM

Dec 2012

big and heavy penalties for trying to hide these types of weapons.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)

5. +1, n/t

Reply to quinnox (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:10 AM

Dec 2012

Demeter

(85,373 posts)

6. What shall we do? Shoot resisters with their own weapons?

Reply to Richardo (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:52 AM

Dec 2012

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)

7. I think it would rarely, if ever, come to that. I've heard people talking shit over the years

Reply to Demeter (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:24 PM

Dec 2012

about how they'd resist any attempts at confiscation, but I think it's puffery. There will be a few crazies who would resist, but I would guess that compliance rates would be very, very high. Not many people are actually ready to die or be imprisoned over a relatively minor inconvenience.

However, to be fair, I think compensation would need to be made, and that opens up the whole issue of where the money would come from. Perhaps tax credits could be used to encourage compliance.

Recognize that it may take a generation to greatly reduce the numbers.

One first step would be to forbid the transfer a restricted weapon in an estate transfer when grandpa dies.

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)

8. As a Chinese co-worker once said to me, in regard to living under a totalitarian regime...

Reply to Richardo (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:25 PM

Dec 2012

"A left jack boot up your ass feels no better than a right jack boot up your ass."

Authoritarians on the left and on the right are cut from the same cloth.

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