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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSam Donaldson To Tea Partiers: “It’s Not Your Country Anymore”
Its our country, not yours, says former ABC star Sam Donaldson.
Its the Tea Party and thinking of the Tea Party and people like that that are driving the Republicans out of contention as a national party, he said.
Donaldson said that he had a particular aversion to the campaign slogan We want to take back our country.
Guys, its not your country anymore its our country and youre part of it, but that thinking is going to defeat Republicans nationally if they dont get rid of it, he said.
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MjolnirTime
(1,800 posts)A+ work there.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)UTUSN
(70,711 posts)barbtries
(28,799 posts)if the woman who killed my daughter had, well...they inventoried her car and she had a $100 bill in a box in the back.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)Drunk driving affects so many of us.
My brother was hit head-on by a drunk driver. He survived, but his best friend did not. They were both eighteen years old.
My brother has lived with disabilities for forty years because of this. At least I still have a brother.
I thank UTUSN too.
barbtries
(28,799 posts)yes, it's like a ripple in a pond. the effects spread out and out and out. i'm sorry for all your brother has had to endure.
Tikki
(14,557 posts)She was a minister's wife and the kind loving force behind a whole community.
The woman who killed her was a drunk and a drunk behind the wheel.
Tikki
Raine
(30,540 posts)miss her, she was so much fun, always the life of the party. I absolutely HATE drink drivers.
Orrex
(63,216 posts)bobclark86
(1,415 posts)when Boehner can't pass anything without them.
That said, this divisive "It's my country, not YOURS," crap is very old and equally annoying. I remember the screams after the PATRIOT ACT was passed, telling me, "If you don't like it, then you can GET OUT!". I remember the "America Vs. Obama" yard signs covering my area (and some are still left, I'm pretty sure just for the lulz), telling me if I want a Democrat in the White House, I'm a communist who wants Muslims to take over America.
We're all Americans. Even when my side says it, it's still annoying as fuck. I seem a certain election in 1994 which led to a particular party being kicked to the minority for 12 years. We shouldn't be so cocky. Obama didn't win as many states as the last election. A clear mandate would have come if we swept the House. Since Boehner's still in charge, we obviously didn't.
Working together is the only way out of this clusterfuck. This shit isn't helping.
That also said, fuck the teabaggers.
Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)I would note, however, this president is the first president since Eisenhower to win two elections getting more than 51% of the vote.
By modern standards he has won two elections as strongly as anyone has.
Also, the only reason the democrats did not get the House is because of redistricting. Democratic congressional candidates got over 100,000 more votes than republican candidates for the 18 House seats, but somehow only won 5 of them. The republicans won 13. The same kind or greater discrepency happened in VA, Mich, Wisky and other states.
calimary
(81,322 posts)Glad you're here! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Actually, boner might do well to throw 'em for a loop and say "fuck the teabaggers" too. He'd have a lot of company!
Wouldn't it be amazing if he just threw up his hands and decided to go another way? How 'bout siding with the Dems - who are gaining on that majority. Just a few from our side would be enough to give him a majority. He should get with Nancy Pelosi, find out what the Dems would go for, and do THAT. Whatever gets a majority.
True, while we did not win back the House, we DID gain seats, and thus gained ground, compared to the GOP, which lost out on both counts. Their majority isn't as big as it was. They lost THREE major-league leading "lights" of the teabagger contingent: todd akin, who vainly presumed he could rise to the Senate, and the Bobbsey Twins from Hell, joe walsh of IL and allen west of FL who both were defeated outright. AND THE REST OF 'EM NEED TO BE REMINDED OF THAT, EVERY DAY, ALL YEAR FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT TWO YEARS, AROUND THE CLOCK. WE WON. AND THEY LOST. Obviously they haven't gotten the message about that, judging from their behavior, SO THEY NEED TO BE REMINDED ABOUT THAT, forgetful willfully-ignorant little dears that they are.
Giving the Dems what they want would be much more in line with what the country at large spoke out for, in the last election. NO tax cuts for the rich. They need to shoulder their share of the burden, for a change. Especially since they can afford to much more easily than the rest of us - and STILL have tons left over to buy another vacation home or private jet.
louis-t
(23,295 posts)duffyduff
(3,251 posts)calimary
(81,322 posts)Good to have you here! I'm just glad he said it. That kind of thing NEEDS to be said more and more and more and more, and in many more ways and from many many many many more mouths than just Sam Donaldson's.
That's the reality that needs to start soaking in. That's the reality that needs to be catapulted. That's the framing that needs to be done, to steer the general mindset AWAY from the false presumption that the teabaggers are everywhere and dominate the agenda and basically run the country. They need to be marginalized and diminished and no longer taken seriously.
Hey, if they want to secede, let 'em! There's a perfect country out there just waiting for folks like them: beautiful balmy utterly free Somalia! NO government. NO rules and regs and annoying laws. All the guns you can eat! All the anarchy you can eat! All the warlords and pirates you can eat! And the poor, homeless, starving - are just laughed at and then ignored - they don't matter and nobody feels compelled to help them and that's the way it should be, 'eh, teabaggers? Those people should just pull themselves up by their own bootstraps because it's every man for himself (notice how that even leaves the women out? EVEN MORE PERFECT!!!) and that whole country has lifted the "you're on your own" mantra into the sacrament level.
I'm being a little sarcastic here as you may have discerned. But I believe that's how teabaggers should be treated. If you act like a jerk, you're gonna be treated like a jerk. And no political group acts like bigger jerks than the teabaggers do.
mzmolly
(50,996 posts)ask?
snot
(10,530 posts)Ironblood
(12 posts)Sorry, but it IS their country - and mine and yours and yes even the f*&^ing 1%s. Diversity has helped this country grow and will continue to do so once we shit can the privileges of the few. We can hate what they stand for but we must fight for their right to say it. We are teetering on the edge of dictatorship, but until we make that final drop, this is swtill OUR country. All of us.
fighting for anybody's right to disrespect me. We once had a Civil War over that. We just have to have it out again I guess. The fools didn't learn the first time. A house divided will not stand. Thy can secede but leave the land here.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)Go back and try again. Slower this time.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)All the sleepers getting the granite.
reflection
(6,286 posts)Enjoy Your Stay (TM)
calimary
(81,322 posts)Glad you're here! And you're correct as well. The teabaggers bring out the worst in me. And it's MY country, too. And I don't believe in what they believe in. And I may agree with the principle of fighting for their right to say whatever they want to, but I do NOT agree with their right to force their Bronze Age views down my throat.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)It was replying to a sign that said, "We want our country back." The question to that would be, "From whom?" That sign assumes the country belongs is THEIRS. Not ours, but just theirs. Donaldson's reply is to that.
Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)with MSM twits. It always is this breathless concern that they will not be able to win elections.
This NEVER is the case with Ds, all you hear is how the Rs are going to have permanent majorities.
How about just calling them for the small minded, selfish ass hats that they are and leave it at that?
Marr
(20,317 posts)They never seem to mean what I think they mean.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)I remember them yelling "we want our country back" when Obama won in 08. "Their" vision for the country is a fascist redneck nightmare.
krakfiend
(202 posts)they were able to influence some repugs and get a few members elected. but now even the repugs see them as who they really are, an extreme right wing haters group.
Crowman1979
(3,844 posts)BOO-YAH!
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)& forcing big changes. look at michigan.
polynomial
(750 posts)Sam Donaldson that news creep punk commentator
Makes my day to hear the law community arrested him for a DUI. The Icon of the vintage news industry finally is showing America his true identity. Mr. Donaldson is one space cadet in an alcohol orbit. I have to giggle laugh a little, Ladies and Gentlemen of America Donaldson is the tip of disgusting cluster, glitter, and glitz that has brought America to where we are now.
This guy, Donaldson was always making America seem we are driving off the cliff. Until getting up to the discontinuous point to find out this is not a ledge to fall off the cliff, this is a cliff like Normandy, the Eisenhower cliff that goes up. You got to climb it. Sheesh.
Get the hook and take this guy off the stage. Let him go home and grow horses and sheep on his ranch. At least he has a home. If miss one paycheck my home could be in jeopardy. Nice uh? I cant retire like he could, if I retire I go into poverty.
So you see they could arrest the whole electromagnetic spectrum of journalist, better yet fine them all for screwing this country by not serving America letting us know what is really going on and being honest. Telling America the truth about corruption in the last two wars. America will never have a golden age as long as Bush and company are not convicted of torture war crimes and sacking treasury.
calimary
(81,322 posts)Good to have you with us! Your last paragraph was a great one! Unfortunately true, too. I'm a retired journalist. I used to be so proud of that profession and now I'm just ashamed and disgusted. They DID give bush/cheney a complete pass. They DID turn a blind eye. Remember the millions around the world who protested against the Iraq War? Remember how much coverage that did NOT get? There were quite literally protests ON EVERY CONTINENT ON EARTH, INCLUDING ANTARCTICA. EVERY ONE. I think the news media is complicit in all of that. And the bushies are ALL war criminals. Totally and undeniably. But did you hear ANY of that when contradicta was out parading around, endorsing republi-CONS here and there along the campaign trail? She and her "husband" should be awaiting a war crimes tribunal in adjoining jail cells in The Hague. But never was heard a discouraging word whenever she came out of the shadows.
It's just way too long and too weary-ing to get into again. But if you've been lurking for awhile, perhaps you've seen some of the ranting around here. I've certainly spewed a whole lot of hot air about this, myself! We're a little island here - a refuge from that madness around us. And sometimes great activism (and occasionally, a result or two) arises from the seeds planted here.
But I actually kinda like what Sam Donaldson said. He said what a lot of us feel. I think that point should be driven home to the teabaggers - WHO ARE IN THE MINORITY!!!! And they should be reminded of that. They DON'T run the country! They DON'T have the right or privilege to boss and intimidate everybody else. As such, they do NOT have the right to dictate what is and what goes. Because they get so much attention, as the squeaky wheel always does, they've come to believe that they DO matter more and that they are first-among-equals, and that their wants and wishes and demands are more important than anyone else's. And THAT is what has to change.
RagAss
(13,832 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)malz
(89 posts)Pathetic.
BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)That's the adverb, "anymore." It never was theirs in the 1st place, contrary to what those assholes think.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)The tea party is too extreme for the vast majority of Americans.