Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

tavernier

(12,409 posts)
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:35 AM Dec 2012

What if suddenly every gun on the planet disappeared... POOF...

and for some unknown reason, no one could build another.

What would be the murder weapons of choice? Knives? Fists? Poison?
Would it be harder to kill another human if you had to do it "personally"?
Would we be safer?





36 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
What if suddenly every gun on the planet disappeared... POOF... (Original Post) tavernier Dec 2012 OP
Girls want boyfriends with great skills...Nunchuku skills, bow hunting skills... jmg257 Dec 2012 #1
More reason to qualify Napoleon Dynamite! Panasonic Dec 2012 #32
swords. didnt you see that horrible show Revolution? NightWatcher Dec 2012 #2
I enjoyed the concept... Coyote_Tan Dec 2012 #26
If that happened, some clever giant hairless yard ape would invent guns slackmaster Dec 2012 #3
"Yard Ape? " - Slackmaster, I suggest you delete your bigoted gun crap. Hoyt Dec 2012 #17
Are you a Creationist or something, Hoyt? I had no idea. slackmaster Dec 2012 #19
Look it up and apologize. Hoyt Dec 2012 #20
Oh, so you're a pedagogue. slackmaster Dec 2012 #21
Tasers? dkf Dec 2012 #4
"Crazed madman strangles 26 in an elementary school before clubbing himself to death." Aristus Dec 2012 #5
This one is possible though: FrodosPet Dec 2012 #11
Possible? Maybe. Probable. Not very. Aristus Dec 2012 #12
Except it's common enough to be the source of the term "running amok." (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #33
Objection, your honor Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2012 #6
Aahhh, I would wonder if I should believe in aliens or gods. Coyotl Dec 2012 #7
Bow and arrow for distance FrodosPet Dec 2012 #8
Something like a machete or long knife AngryAmish Dec 2012 #9
Sarin gas, bombs, e-coli? dkf Dec 2012 #10
I read an interesting novel with that theme. Hatchling Dec 2012 #13
That whole series is neat. Posteritatis Dec 2012 #34
It would make it a lot harder for the deranged to terrorize a large group madokie Dec 2012 #14
Harsh words??? nt Walk away Dec 2012 #15
All the gun cultists would die of a broken heart, or extreme withdrawal. Hoyt Dec 2012 #16
People that want to kill, HappyMe Dec 2012 #18
The OCD gun nuts will start collecting swords. nt Javaman Dec 2012 #22
In some states, one can't carry a sword in public. A friggin gun or two is fine. Hoyt Dec 2012 #29
History shows it'd be swords and knives. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #23
I'm picturing millions of gun nuts, all running frantically around their houses, yelling, Marr Dec 2012 #24
Hand grenades, pipe bombs, timed explosives. no_hypocrisy Dec 2012 #25
Very good question shintao Dec 2012 #27
An invisible suit of armor? tavernier Dec 2012 #28
I'd rather a society where people didn't need to wear personal deflector shields. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #31
Sharp objects worked well enough in our long, considerably more violent past. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #30
Crossbow jp76 Dec 2012 #35
Right now, knives are the second-most-used weapon in homicides. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #36

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
1. Girls want boyfriends with great skills...Nunchuku skills, bow hunting skills...
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:38 AM
Dec 2012

Although the notion of killing someone, especially committing murder, is abhorrible, I would go with a compound bow and/or a crossbow.

 

Coyote_Tan

(194 posts)
26. I enjoyed the concept...
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 12:26 PM
Dec 2012

That main teenager girl character though. Utterly unwatchable.

I really tried...

Aristus

(66,474 posts)
5. "Crazed madman strangles 26 in an elementary school before clubbing himself to death."
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:42 AM
Dec 2012

Will read no headline anywhere ever...

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
11. This one is possible though:
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:48 AM
Dec 2012

"Crazed madman kills 26 with samurai sword in an elementary school before stabbing himself to death."

Aristus

(66,474 posts)
12. Possible? Maybe. Probable. Not very.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:51 AM
Dec 2012

Certainly not as probable as a shooting massacre; as has been demonstrated.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
6. Objection, your honor
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:42 AM
Dec 2012

Wikd, acid induced speculation.

Leading weapon would be glitter bombs.

While we're fantasizing.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
7. Aahhh, I would wonder if I should believe in aliens or gods.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:44 AM
Dec 2012

Gods? Never mind the gods, I got delusional for a second ...

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
8. Bow and arrow for distance
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:45 AM
Dec 2012

Knives and swords up close.

Poison probably would make a strong comeback as well.

While we're paying the "What If" game...

- What if all the world's chocolate turned into vanilla?

- What if the earth suddenly started rotating backwards?

- What if a clear sky was green instead of blue?

- What if Superman's spaceship landed in Berlin instead of Smallville?

Cool game. I could go on with this all day.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
9. Something like a machete or long knife
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:45 AM
Dec 2012

Compared to olden days making these things is very cheap. If everyone was rearming the economies of scale would drive the price way down.

I wonder what armies would look like. Roman Legion, Macedonian Phalanx, Swedish pikeline?

Would there still be explosives?

Hatchling

(2,323 posts)
13. I read an interesting novel with that theme.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:51 AM
Dec 2012

Dies the Fire by S.M. Stirling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dies_the_Fire

In Dies the Fire, S.M. Stirling chronicles the struggle of two groups who try to survive "The Change", a mysterious worldwide event that suddenly alters physical laws so that electricity, gunpowder, and most other forms of high-energy-density technology no longer work. As a result of this, modern civilization comes crashing down.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
34. That whole series is neat.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 12:59 PM
Dec 2012

I was annoyed that the show on TV these day was (1) obviously ripping that off and (2) doing a really awful job of it.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
14. It would make it a lot harder for the deranged to terrorize a large group
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:54 AM
Dec 2012

I think there would be less killing and to me that is the important part, fewer lives lost

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
16. All the gun cultists would die of a broken heart, or extreme withdrawal.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:56 AM
Dec 2012

Clearly folks would not be as macho without a gun in their pants.
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
29. In some states, one can't carry a sword in public. A friggin gun or two is fine.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 12:53 PM
Dec 2012

Unbelievable.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
24. I'm picturing millions of gun nuts, all running frantically around their houses, yelling,
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 12:10 PM
Dec 2012

"Where is it, precious?! Where IS IIIIIT??!?!"

no_hypocrisy

(46,230 posts)
25. Hand grenades, pipe bombs, timed explosives.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 12:19 PM
Dec 2012

The whole concept is to kill and maim as many people as possible in a little space of time.

 

shintao

(487 posts)
27. Very good question
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 12:38 PM
Dec 2012

I like the question, because it is the type of question that scientists and inventors should be looking at, and asking what can be done to protect humans from their environment and other humans?

Can a force field be designed to surround a human? There are some forces like static that can repel objects and act as a force field that is very difficult to penetrate. So something along that line that could be activated by a cuff device.

I have considered the static barrier as a means to keep a glass highway I am working on from being exposed to dust, rain or weather, that covers over the highway.

Here is a short article on that force field. http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/e-wall.html

But there are other force fields as well, such as gravity and magnetics, so there are probably others, and eventually, depending on how much research we throw at it, these forces can be harnessed and used to protect humans.

tavernier

(12,409 posts)
28. An invisible suit of armor?
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 12:53 PM
Dec 2012

Perhaps we should approach the botanists? Garlic could be a start.

Wait! A perfume that provides such a repellent odor; something like Estee Lauder Youth Dew...

Love the force field idea. If the gun nuts keep building bigger and better guns, we will definitely have to invent some self protection. Something that bounces the bullets back at the shooter would be ideal, please.

jp76

(28 posts)
35. Crossbow
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:39 PM
Dec 2012

The entire point of a gun is to inflict damage from a distance, thereby preventing the threat from getting close to you. It is an equalizer, as it puts people of differing physical prowess on a more level playing field.

A crossbow does the same thing. It doesn't have the range or rate of fire of a gun, but the use of a windlass allows even a weak person to launch a bolt with frightening force.

A crossbow also shoots without a big boom. To be honest, not sure why they aren't used more often for murders. Cheaper, quieter. I have no idea about crossbow bolt forensics, but it seems to me it would also leave less evidence.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
36. Right now, knives are the second-most-used weapon in homicides.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:48 PM
Dec 2012

I suspect they'd take over. Weapons of war, however, would revert to bows, crossbows, and all sorts of hand weapons like swords, spears, lances, etc.

That sort of "Dies the Fire" scenario makes for very interesting speculation...and a fair degree of horror for those not fortunate enough to be physically capable of brute force violence.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»What if suddenly every gu...