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I stand with President Barack Obama (Original Post) ProSense Jan 2012 OP
+1 lsewpershad Jan 2012 #1
You sure do. tblue Jan 2012 #2
... RetroLounge Jan 2012 #37
I'm sure the compensation is commensurate to the effort. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jan 2012 #45
I presume "stand with" is a... euphemism. LooseWilly Jan 2012 #56
K&R !!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2012 #3
As do I! K&R 11 Bravo Jan 2012 #4
Kicked and recommended. It's only going to get nuttier from here. TheWraith Jan 2012 #5
I'm in. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #6
Me, too! gateley Jan 2012 #7
I'll support whoever the Democratic nominee is. onehandle Jan 2012 #8
There is no other option. Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #9
yup Skittles Jan 2012 #12
That isn't accurate either Mr Bipartisan loves implementing Republican policy TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #46
So what are you recommending? A 5th option? nt Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #59
No Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #94
seriously? zappaman Jan 2012 #97
No, I don't. Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #106
That (1a) will save us and our democracy. The Wielding Truth Jan 2012 #52
Correction. Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #65
Agreed...the real battle is getting progressive Democrats and Independents elected to Congress. Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #82
And that's an even more important battle. Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #93
Yeah I BADLY wish we had a better option slay Jan 2012 #74
K&R silverweb Jan 2012 #10
I really like this. I wish it were in the smile section. GObama! The Wielding Truth Jan 2012 #50
Right click on the image and save the URL. silverweb Jan 2012 #69
Thank you, silverweb! The Wielding Truth Jan 2012 #81
Happy to be of service. silverweb Jan 2012 #87
Is this the daily two minutes of hate? MinervaX Jan 2012 #11
Where do you get the "two minutes of hate" from the OP? Hugabear Jan 2012 #47
Go look up the origin of the phrase "two minute hate" for what was meant. Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #95
+1 onenote Jan 2012 #13
Kick politicasista Jan 2012 #14
K&R for some sanity. great white snark Jan 2012 #15
Proudly LyndaG Jan 2012 #16
K&R Tx4obama Jan 2012 #17
K/R CakeGrrl Jan 2012 #18
So you stand with war criminals -- Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2012 #19
wow zappaman Jan 2012 #30
I'm so happy you find torture funny. Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #66
torture is not funny zappaman Jan 2012 #72
And yet your smilie laughs at it. Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #75
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #80
I'll discuss Columbine in a more appropriate forum if you like, but Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #92
no thanks zappaman Jan 2012 #96
Proofreading results, since you brought up quality of writing. Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #99
haha zappaman Jan 2012 #101
Win Electric Monk Jan 2012 #103
Frank Zappa was one of a kind. Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #104
Now on to the meat of the post.... Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #102
There have been things about Clinton I didn't like and things about Carter and even Kenedy, but The Wielding Truth Jan 2012 #83
I could not agree more! zappaman Jan 2012 #85
I agree. We can't let a Republican win because they will be worse. Pab Sungenis Jan 2012 #91
Really? zappaman Jan 2012 #100
oh boo hoo... Sheepshank Jan 2012 #32
lol, prosense I think we all know you always stand with Obama quinnox Jan 2012 #20
I suppose ProSense Jan 2012 #22
I do too!!! Pisces Jan 2012 #21
K&f*ckingR Number23 Jan 2012 #23
What she ^^^ said. Scurrilous Jan 2012 #24
K&R BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #25
As do I, and for very good reasons. MineralMan Jan 2012 #26
Well that's a d'uh statement, MadHound Jan 2012 #27
Certainly ProSense Jan 2012 #33
I stand with President Obama.... greatauntoftriplets Jan 2012 #28
Good zipplewrath Jan 2012 #31
GObama! Snarkoleptic Jan 2012 #29
So do I! Nt DevonRex Jan 2012 #34
K&R. They really came out of the woodwork today. n/t FSogol Jan 2012 #35
Aren't you special. donheld Jan 2012 #36
No shit? RetroLounge Jan 2012 #38
. ProSense Jan 2012 #39
Sorry, I don't watch your porn RetroLounge Jan 2012 #40
Interesting response. cliffordu Jan 2012 #42
I was wondering the same thing Number23 Jan 2012 #43
More: Scurrilous Jan 2012 #51
Reminds me of a commercial I saw... Wait Wut Jan 2012 #58
Love love love his charming voice. The Wielding Truth Jan 2012 #49
I got such a kick out of that! JNelson6563 Jan 2012 #63
heh heh heh. progressoid Jan 2012 #44
Me too. K&R n/t Greybnk48 Jan 2012 #41
Certainly the best in the race and an amazingly accomplished person. Yes. I stand with Obama. The Wielding Truth Jan 2012 #48
Meh. blkmusclmachine Jan 2012 #53
I'm in loyalsister Jan 2012 #54
Yes. Rex Jan 2012 #55
I'm one of the "We" in "Yes We Can"! lamp_shade Jan 2012 #57
I'll vote for him for a third time. craigmatic Jan 2012 #60
All things considered TBF Jan 2012 #61
Of course I will vote for him. HappyMe Jan 2012 #62
I stand with actual progressive/liberal policy (n/t) a2liberal Jan 2012 #64
I stand with President Barrack Hussein Obama too onethatcares Jan 2012 #67
my signature handmade34 Jan 2012 #68
Stand with the guy that called us fucking retards and the professional left? LiberalLovinLug Jan 2012 #70
Why wouldn't you? I would hope that you choose Obama over serfdom and religious oppression. The Wielding Truth Jan 2012 #89
I stand with Presidents Thomas Jefferson and John Quincy Adams Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #71
Yeah yeah we know you do already slay Jan 2012 #73
LOL, Jesus! n-t Logical Jan 2012 #76
. ProSense Jan 2012 #77
Four More Years! Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #78
K&R, mainly for those who post OPs attacking Obama on a regular basis ... as they now ... JoePhilly Jan 2012 #79
He'll to the yeah. GoBama baby! nt arely staircase Jan 2012 #84
I love puppies! DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #86
OK: ProSense Jan 2012 #90
I stand with Obama too. Terra Alta Jan 2012 #88
moi aussi jpak Jan 2012 #98
You, and your blue wall of links!!!!! msanthrope Jan 2012 #105

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
5. Kicked and recommended. It's only going to get nuttier from here.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 06:30 PM
Jan 2012

As more and more of the ratfuckers, the crypto-Republicans, and the propaganda profiteers see the impending Republican defeat and try all the harder to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
9. There is no other option.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 06:32 PM
Jan 2012

He's not perfect. I doubt there are any perfect candidates, in terms of absolute fealty to a progressive agenda, who exist in the real world. All I know is there are 4 options in November-

(1) Vote for Obama
(2) Vote for the Republican nominee
(3) Vote 3rd party
(4) Don't vote

Only 1 option does not help and promote the Republican agenda.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
46. That isn't accurate either Mr Bipartisan loves implementing Republican policy
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:53 AM
Jan 2012

Of course the present day TeaPubliKlans are devoted to the John Birch Society agenda so Republican recycled Republican policy seems sensible when contrasted against the options.

They aren't sensible, it just seems so in comparison. These old rehashed policies are designed ground up to advance the Republican agend while enhancing the positions of existing profit centers and erroding the commons.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
106. No, I don't.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:38 PM
Jan 2012

#1 is the best option because the Republicans will be worse. It will not stop the advancement of Republican policies, but it's the option that will advance them the least or the slowest.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
65. Correction.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:55 PM
Jan 2012
(1) Vote for Obama
(2) Vote for the Republican nominee
(3) Vote 3rd party
(4) Don't vote

Only 1 option does not help and promote the Republican agenda.


All four options help and promote the Republican agenda of an unfair tax system, permanent war in Afghanistan, and a continuing rightward drift of political thought in this country let alone on the Supreme Court.

Option 1 helps it least, which is why I'm picking that option. But the second this election is over I start working to put a real progressive Democrat in the White House.
 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
93. And that's an even more important battle.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:10 PM
Jan 2012

The disaster that was the first two years of the Obama administration, where the Blue Dogs blocked even the most tepid responses the President made to the crises at hand illustrated that perfectly.

 

slay

(7,670 posts)
74. Yeah I BADLY wish we had a better option
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 06:01 PM
Jan 2012

all the rah-rah Obama cheerleading freaks me out - cause i have LOTS of issue with the way he has ruled (pro-corporate) in his first term - and the facts that others still seem to think he's awesome - makes me question if that's the side i really want to side with either - due to either their lack of a grasp on reality or purposeful ignorance of the way Obama escalated the pointless war in Afghanistan, didn't even attempt to stand up for the people when it came to single-payer health care, gave tax cuts to the 1%, signed the bill allowing for the indefinite detention of American citizens without access to a trial or lawyer, and helped cover-up the WAR CRIMES of the Bush admin. yeah, i really, really wish we had a better option. in so many ways - the system is fundamentally broken.

i will agree with you that he is at least better than the republicans though - sad as that statement may be.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
69. Right click on the image and save the URL.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:34 PM
Jan 2012

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Then, when you want to use it, just copy the URL into your post.

I have a folder full of nonstandard smilies found and saved from one place or another. They're fun!



Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
47. Where do you get the "two minutes of hate" from the OP?
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:53 AM
Jan 2012

The OP was stating his support for Obama.

Is that now considered to be a hateful post?

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
95. Go look up the origin of the phrase "two minute hate" for what was meant.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:14 PM
Jan 2012

I don't entirely agree with the comparison of Obama cheerleading with the two minute hate, but it can easily lead to something similar.

The next step is usually someone asking the question "where else do you think you're gonna go?" The last time that was thrown up in the left's face, it denied Gore the White House.

Do not kick the sleepy dog, please.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
66. I'm so happy you find torture funny.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:04 PM
Jan 2012

One of the worst betrayals Obama has made is not prosecuting the war criminals that came before him.

Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #75)

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
92. I'll discuss Columbine in a more appropriate forum if you like, but
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:07 PM
Jan 2012

nothing funny happened there. If you want to know why my book is titled that, I suggest you go buy a copy.

And how clear do you really think you were? Someone brought up Obama standing with war criminals (which he has done, by not prosecuting them) and you laugh. What else were we to think, other than that you were laughing at the war crimes he's ignored?

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
96. no thanks
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:14 PM
Jan 2012

if you're book is as well written as your posts, I'm gonna pass.
The laughter is because only an idiot would equate support for President Obama with support for war criminals.
And your comprehension still sucks. Please tell us how the fact that war criminals not being prosecuted means Obama is "standing" with them.
Really, I get that you don't like Obama.
But to equate him with war criminals is something I expect from the right, not someone on a progressive website.
Maybe you should stick to writing about the humor of Columbine. Oh, did I take away the wrong impression from the title? Guess someone was unclear!

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
99. Proofreading results, since you brought up quality of writing.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:21 PM
Jan 2012
if you're book is as well written as your posts, I'm gonna pass.

  • Start a sentence with a capital letter. "If...."

  • "You're" is a contraction for "you are." This sentence says "if you are book is...." The possessive form is "your."

  • "Gonna" is not a word. The correct gerund form of "to go" is "I'm going to."


Moral of the story: those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw dictionaries.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
101. haha
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:25 PM
Jan 2012

yoo caugt the speling erors.
bravo!
guess you can't argue with the substance of the post, eh?
too busy laughing about school shootings and our president who "stands with war criminals"?

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
103. Win
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:33 PM
Jan 2012

"Drop out of school before your mind rots from exposure to our mediocre educational system. Forget about the Senior Prom and go to the library and educate yourself if you've got any guts. Some of you like pep rallies and plastic robots who tell you what to read. Forget I mentioned it... Rise for the flag salute." - Frank Zappa

"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater." - Frank Zappa

"Remember, there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over." - Frank Zappa

"Government is the Entertainment Division of the military-industrial complex." - Frank Zappa



"You know what I hate? People who say "Obama stands with war criminals" because war criminals have not been prosecuted. Think about the inanity of that statement. " - "Zappaman


One of these quotes is not like the others.... one of these kids just isn't the same.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
104. Frank Zappa was one of a kind.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:35 PM
Jan 2012

One of my heroes in fact. Did you ever read his autobiography? Lots of great stuff in there about beer and flags.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
102. Now on to the meat of the post....
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:29 PM
Jan 2012
The laughter is because only an idiot would equate support for President Obama with support for war criminals.


That was not clear from the context of the post.

And your comprehension still sucks. Please tell us how the fact that war criminals not being prosecuted means Obama is "standing" with them.


I did not make that claim. I made the statement that one of his worst betrayals was not prosecuting war criminals. That could be seen by some as Obama "standing with" them is a logical extrapolation of his actions; if he is not prosecuting their crimes he must support them.

I made a comment that your smilie implies that you find torture and other war crimes funny. If that is not the case, you might want to edit your post to clarify that.

Really, I get that you don't like Obama.


Actually, I quite like the man. But I dislike the way he governs. Especially when it's compared to the way he campaigns.

But to equate him with war criminals is something I expect from the right, not someone on a progressive website.


The same could be said for blind, unquestioning devotion. Obama is not a cult leader; we are the Democratic Party, not the Branch Barackians. Criticizing his actions is our right and our duty. And insulting people who disagree with his actions is a good way to divide the party. As I said elsewhere in this thread, please don't kick the sleepy dog.

Maybe you should stick to writing about the humor of Columbine. Oh, did I take away the wrong impression from the title? Guess someone was unclear!


Is Dreams of my Father a book transcribing dreams that the President had about his father? Of course not. The title is a literary device. If you want to know what the title of my book means, here's the back cover blurb:

Seeking revenge against a bunch of high school bullies, redress from an intransigent school system, and escape from their mundane lives, Jake and his friends Mick, Topher, and Whitey make plans to stage a mock Columbine-style school shooting, fake their deaths, and get out of the country. An audacious plan, but planned meticulously down to the last detail....

...except for one boy oversleeping, one stuck babysitting his 12 year-old brother, their getaway car being towed with the guns in the trunk, encounters with protesting mothers and bizarre cultists, and the annoying fact that no one bothered to bring any bullets.

As obstacle after obstacle is thrown in their path, the boys reassess their plans and their friendships. And when they finally make it to school, things really get interesting.


So now you can see why the title was chosen.

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
83. There have been things about Clinton I didn't like and things about Carter and even Kenedy, but
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:50 PM
Jan 2012

I will support a good leader until someone comes who is better.We cannot have a leader from the crazy fascists who are running against him. Can we? I would hope that you agree with me.

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
91. I agree. We can't let a Republican win because they will be worse.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:04 PM
Jan 2012

I just hate the mocking joy coming from certain corners that those of us who disagree with different areas of Obama's administration that we have no other choice.

Then they wonder why we don't share in their joy. Maybe because, like a dog who gets kicked on a regular basis, we're unlikely to trust a hand supposedly extended in friendship.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
100. Really?
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:23 PM
Jan 2012

You know what I hate?
People who say "Obama stands with war criminals" because war criminals have not been prosecuted.
Think about the inanity of that statement.
And the mocking joy of every day pointing out how awful Obama is, is tedious and unproductive.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
32. oh boo hoo...
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 09:42 PM
Jan 2012

you sound like a very bitter sad sad voter.

You could sound fired up and angry on your very own thread and it may actually seem inspired to so very many at DU. Lots of 'em going on here lately. You won't be alone.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
20. lol, prosense I think we all know you always stand with Obama
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 07:24 PM
Jan 2012

no matter what he says or does, it doesn't matter. This is about as surprising as that the sun sets in the West.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
22. I suppose
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 07:57 PM
Jan 2012

"lol, prosense I think we all know you always stand with Obama"

...that means no one knows that you do?

Wait, do you?



BumRushDaShow

(129,067 posts)
25. K&R
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:52 PM
Jan 2012

Agree about the full-frontal assault. Not even an attempt to make it appear genuinely random either! But then it's a New Moon too.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
27. Well that's a d'uh statement,
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 09:06 PM
Jan 2012

I never would have thought you an Obama supporter without this self gratifying OP

Number23

(24,544 posts)
43. I was wondering the same thing
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:41 AM
Jan 2012
Why go to the trouble??

Prosense, THE Prosense posts a thread titled "I stand with President Obama." Pretty freaking clear what this is about and yet, the ever so special here just somehow HAVE to click the link, read the OP and reply with nastiness.

And these same folks will soon be hollering that SHE baits THEM.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
58. Reminds me of a commercial I saw...
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:07 AM
Jan 2012

A teenage girl calls her boyfriend to tell him she's giving him the "silent treatment".

onethatcares

(16,169 posts)
67. I stand with President Barrack Hussein Obama too
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:25 PM
Jan 2012

and I can't imagine a world with these stupid other party shitheads in charge.

I don't want to imagine such a world.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
70. Stand with the guy that called us fucking retards and the professional left?
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:37 PM
Jan 2012

Through his chief of staff and press secretary.

Sure, why not.
What other choice do we have?

Its like choosing to hang close to the bully that only steals your lunch money, as opposed to hanging near the one that takes your lunch money AND beats you up after school besides.

Why wouldn't you? But it doesn't mean it will be easy for progressive minded voters.
Its a redundant OP, and feels a little arrogant. Its a little like one of the kids that surround the "lesser" bully rubbing it in. "whatcha gonna do?...go across the yard and stand with the bigger bully?....what, no? he he he.....now turn out those pockets!"

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
71. I stand with Presidents Thomas Jefferson and John Quincy Adams
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:40 PM
Jan 2012
"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." Thomas Jefferson to Francis Hopkinson, 1789.

"Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either would be unworthy of a reasonable or moral man." Thomas Jefferson to William Branch Giles, 1795.

“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." John Quincy Adams
 

slay

(7,670 posts)
73. Yeah yeah we know you do already
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:53 PM
Jan 2012

i would love to stand with anyone who runs to the left of him in the primaries. he's better than the repubs - but that doesn't mean he's good by any means - not IMO.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
79. K&R, mainly for those who post OPs attacking Obama on a regular basis ... as they now ...
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:34 PM
Jan 2012

complain that YOU voice support for Obama on a regular basis.

Clearly drives them crazy!

You should have included a BUNCH of links to his numerous accomplishments ... they REALLY hate that.

The best part is that they will get more and more screechy as Obama's re-election draws closer.

I'm still waiting for them to start "3rdPartyUndergound.com", but it does not seem likely at this point.



Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
88. I stand with Obama too.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:57 PM
Jan 2012

He isn't perfect, and there are quite a few things I disagree with him on, but he's the best we have right now. The thought of Newt or Mittens in the White House makes me want to vomit. FOUR MORE YEARS!!

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