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ProSense

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Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:49 PM Dec 2012

Jared Bernstein: The Cliff Deal in the Offing

The Cliff Deal in the Offing

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But jeez…this meets the R’s further on their side of the field than one might have expected given the White House’s (WH) leverage. The wealthy end up facing a considerably smaller tax increase under this deal—I’m sure the TPC will soon tell us how much smaller—than any other deal that the WH or D’s have offered thus far, including the Boehner-Obama deal under discussion in 2011.

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OK—but what are you gonna do, WH, when R’s say, “forget it…let’s default?” Unless the President is willing at that point to tell his Treasury Secretary to go forth and borrow as needed—i.e., override the R’s—this plan will fail.

So, here’s my first blush response to this deal. The thing that worried me most in the endgame is that the WH would be so intent on a deal that they’d lock in too few revenues with no path back to the revenue well, and that they’d leave the debt ceiling hanging out there. Remember, the ultimate goal of Repubicans here is still to “starve the beast”–to shrink government by hacking away at both sides of its ledger–receipts and outlays.

Those fears will be realized unless the President really and truly refuses to negotiate on the debt ceiling and is willing to blow past those who would stage a strategic default. If he is not, and if this cliff deal passes, then I fear the WH may have squandered its hard won leverage.

http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/the-cliff-deal-in-the-offing/


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Jared Bernstein: The Cliff Deal in the Offing (Original Post) ProSense Dec 2012 OP
It appears Obama will demand even more revenue if the GOP tries to hold the country hostage again: Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #1
 

Cali_Democrat

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1. It appears Obama will demand even more revenue if the GOP tries to hold the country hostage again:
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:52 PM
Dec 2012
Here’s what Republicans really hated about Obama’s news conference
Posted by Ezra Klein on December 31, 2012 at 3:48 pm

President Obama’s cheerful, mocking statement enraged Republicans. But the bigger problem is he said something Republican leaders have been trying to hide from their members. Obama said, clearly, that if the GOP wants more spending cuts later, they’re going to need to hand over more taxes, too. In fact, he said it repeatedly.

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I’m willing to reduce our government’s Medicare bills by finding new ways to reduce the cost of health care in this country. That’s something that we all should agree on. We want to make sure that Medicare is there for future generations. But the current trajectory of health care costs has gone up so high, we’ve got to find ways to make sure that it’s sustainable.

But that kind of reform has to go hand and hand with doing some more work to reform our tax code, so that wealthy individuals, the biggest corporations, can’t take advantage of loopholes and deductions that aren’t available to most of the folks standing up here; aren’t available to most Americans.

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Obama “just moved the goalpost again. Significantly,” tweeted Mitch McConnell’s spokesman.

That’s really why Obama’s comments posed a threat to a deal. The GOP’s congressional leaders want to tell their members that if they just vote for this modest tax increase now, then they can move onto the debt ceiling, where their enhanced leverage will let them force a deal that’s all spending cuts. Obama, in effect, said that’s not true. He said if Republicans raise taxes now, he’s going to pocket that tax increase and demand tax increases in the next deal, too.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/31/heres-what-republicans-really-hated-about-obamas-news-conference/


It seems Obama still might have the upper hand, even in the debt ceiling debate.
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