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DonRedwood

(4,359 posts) Mon Dec 31, 2012, 10:21 PM Dec 2012

"Don't fuck with me fellas. This ain't my first time at the rodeo." --Joan Crawford

"Proceed" -- President Barak Obama

When we wake up tomorrow, it will be 2013. The President, against all odds, has managed to kill the Bush Tax cuts. The President, against all odds, has somehow managed to get DEFENSE cuts passed.

There are no cuts to social security.

The stage is set for a tax cut for the middle class to be put up for a vote without any strings that also pay off the rich.

I know we all don't agree on the current negotiations but I'd like to remind you all that we just scored a major victory in November and that I couldn't think of a better bunch of people to spend the next year with bantering about the nuances of the next political fight we face.

I'll especially enjoy watching John Boehner's career flame out here as the Republicans continue their cannibalism.

A Very Happy New Year to you all, my DU friends, and may we revel in many more victories in the coming year.

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"Don't fuck with me fellas. This ain't my first time at the rodeo." --Joan Crawford (Original Post) DonRedwood Dec 2012 OP

killed the Bush tax cuts "against all odds"? Enrique Dec 2012 #1

I think fighting to have them expire counts in this case DonRedwood Dec 2012 #2

it extends them PERMANENTLY up to 400,000 Enrique Dec 2012 #4

uh, Enrique.. tax rates can always be changed in a future bill... dionysus Dec 2012 #6

oh goodie Enrique Dec 2012 #7

Uh-huh truebluegreen Dec 2012 #8

you can bet they won't be going up for the wealthy bowens43 Dec 2012 #13

true if by expire you mean make permanent. ...... bowens43 Dec 2012 #12

Happy New Year and come back next year ready to fight harder. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #3

Happy New Year dears Hekate Dec 2012 #5

Skinner and company can billh58 Dec 2012 #9

Hekate kardonb Jan 2013 #15

Yep, I so agree, Hekate. He did just great! juajen Jan 2013 #17

You obviously missed the breaking cave... former_con Dec 2012 #10

quite obviously. nt Jack Sprat Jan 2013 #19

Happy New Year my friend! Firebrand Gary Dec 2012 #11

Happy New Year all. I wrote a paper. If you have time, can you read it? It concerns unemployed earcandle Jan 2013 #14

We won't Screw with you....ever! Just drive the stake in further, thank you very much! NeeDeep Jan 2013 #16

I love that scene. BVictor1 Jan 2013 #18

that was good to watch@! DonRedwood Jan 2013 #21

Randi Rhodes Had it pegged!! grockri Jan 2013 #20

Enrique

(27,461 posts)

1. killed the Bush tax cuts "against all odds"?

Reply to DonRedwood (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 10:25 PM

Dec 2012

they were due to expire automatically.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)

2. I think fighting to have them expire counts in this case

Reply to Enrique (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 10:27 PM

Dec 2012

people had a fit when they were extended last time so I'm giving him credit here for allowing them to expire.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)

4. it extends them PERMANENTLY up to 400,000

Reply to DonRedwood (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 10:35 PM

Dec 2012

even the GOP couldn't make them permanent. When they were enacted it was Republicans who put the sunset in the tax cuts, not the dems. All the dems voted against ALL the tax cuts, even with the sunset.

Permanently extending the cuts, which were going to expire automatically tomorrow, for up to the 98% percentile, is hardly "killing the Bush tax cuts against all odds".

dionysus

(26,467 posts)

6. uh, Enrique.. tax rates can always be changed in a future bill...

Reply to Enrique (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 10:50 PM

Dec 2012

Enrique

(27,461 posts)

7. oh goodie

Reply to dionysus (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 11:17 PM

Dec 2012

is the GOP going to give us ponies too?

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)

8. Uh-huh

Reply to dionysus (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 11:25 PM

Dec 2012

Clearly, it is very easy to change tax rates at any time.

bowens43

(16,064 posts)

13. you can bet they won't be going up for the wealthy

Reply to dionysus (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 11:49 PM

Dec 2012

but yes, the poor and middle class will probably be paying more in the future

bowens43

(16,064 posts)

12. true if by expire you mean make permanent. ......

Reply to DonRedwood (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 11:48 PM

Dec 2012

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)

3. Happy New Year and come back next year ready to fight harder. nm

Reply to DonRedwood (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 10:31 PM

Dec 2012

Hekate

(90,708 posts)

5. Happy New Year dears

Reply to DonRedwood (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 10:37 PM

Dec 2012

I'm still smiling from reading the self-parodist running the Hair On Fire thread.

I think President Obama is doing just fine.

Hekate

billh58

(6,635 posts)

9. Skinner and company can

Reply to Hekate (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 11:37 PM

Dec 2012

save a lot of money on the electric bill for a few days. The glow from all of the hair on fire will be enough to light up the place -- even the dark corners of the Gungeon.

Happy New Year to all...

kardonb

(777 posts)

15. Hekate

Reply to Hekate (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 12:26 AM

Jan 2013

Couldn't agree with you more . We have a great president that looks pout for us all , and cares about us , that is good feeling .

Everyone , have a good 2013 , and keep up the good fight .

juajen

(8,515 posts)

17. Yep, I so agree, Hekate. He did just great!

Reply to Hekate (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 12:45 AM

Jan 2013

former_con

(47 posts)

10. You obviously missed the breaking cave...

Reply to DonRedwood (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 11:45 PM

Dec 2012

I mean news...http://news.msn.com/politics/update-white-house-gop-reach-a-deal-on-the-fiscal-cliff

Jack Sprat

(2,500 posts)

19. quite obviously. nt

Reply to former_con (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 12:54 AM

Jan 2013

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)

11. Happy New Year my friend!

Reply to DonRedwood (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 11:46 PM

Dec 2012

earcandle

(3,622 posts)

14. Happy New Year all. I wrote a paper. If you have time, can you read it? It concerns unemployed

Reply to DonRedwood (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 12:22 AM

Jan 2013

http://www.earcandleproductions.com/Debra_Nicholson_Bassham_21_Century_Paradox.pdf

NeeDeep

(120 posts)

16. We won't Screw with you....ever! Just drive the stake in further, thank you very much!

Reply to DonRedwood (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 12:33 AM

Jan 2013

and a happy new year, to you!

BVictor1

(229 posts)

18. I love that scene.

Reply to DonRedwood (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 12:51 AM

Jan 2013

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Happy New Year everyone...

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)

21. that was good to watch@!

Reply to BVictor1 (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:30 AM

Jan 2013

Though my favorite is "I should have known you'd know where to find the booze AND the boys!" (I think it was that...if not...boys and the booze!&quot

grockri

(19 posts)

20. Randi Rhodes Had it pegged!!

Reply to DonRedwood (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 12:58 AM

Jan 2013

When the sequestration was passed. Randi said on her show many times, that Medicare, SS and Medicaid, were not in the package. She pretty much hit it out the park, along with the President!! I know there has been some bashing of the President Obama about this, and I have been disappointed at times, but I think this was the plan all along.

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