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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 08:23 AM Jan 2013

How The US Is Now Experiencing Its Own, Bizarro-World Version Of The Euro Crisis

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-is-now-experiencing-its-own-bizarro-world-version-of-the-euro-crisis-2013-1

Today New Jersey Governor Chris Christie delivered a historic tirade blasting fellow Republican John Boehner for refusing to hold a vote on aid for Hurricane Sandy.

The raw anger and emotion was like something from out of a movie, but beyond the obvious points, Chris Christie brought up one fact about the US economy that really should get a lot more attention than it does.

Rich states like New Jersey, New York, and California (which frequently get blasted by conservatives for having high taxes and big government) pay a lot more in federal taxes than they get back from the federal government. While Republican states, with their low taxes and small governments, get more back than they pay in.

This map demonstrates that phenomenon. The ones shaded blue pay in more than they get back. Texas is the only "blue" state here that doesn't vote Democratic.




Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-is-now-experiencing-its-own-bizarro-world-version-of-the-euro-crisis-2013-1#ixzz2GulLRdk1
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How The US Is Now Experiencing Its Own, Bizarro-World Version Of The Euro Crisis (Original Post) xchrom Jan 2013 OP
Actually you're describing how we're avoiding the euro-crisis: massive transfers Recursion Jan 2013 #1
The article goes on to explain that in detail. enough Jan 2013 #2
Only in Bizarro-World USA would poor (Republican) states demand austerity. Agony Jan 2013 #3

Recursion

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1. Actually you're describing how we're avoiding the euro-crisis: massive transfers
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:00 AM
Jan 2013

What you're pointing out is precisely what Europe doesn't do. Things would be fine in Europe if Germany subsidized Greece in the way that Massachusetts subsidizes Alabama.

enough

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2. The article goes on to explain that in detail.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:14 AM
Jan 2013

The headline seems somewhat misleading.

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Anyway, it's the system of intra-state transfers that makes the United States a functioning union, and it's the reason that we're not like the Eurozone.

The US states and the various Eurozone countries are actually similar in that they can't print their own money, and have to strive to balance their books, and if they don't, markets may lose confidence in them. But the difference is that the rich states are permanently bailing out the poor states, a mechanism which doesn't exist formally in Europe (it exists on an ad hoc basis).

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In Europe, you have rich, high-productivity states like Germany demanding that the poor, low-productivity states cut their government budgets if they want bailout money. And although the economic don't work, the sentiment is logical, especially if you're a German politician that has to explain to voters why their tax dollars are going to a different country.

But in the US it's totally different. It's the moocher states (the Greece-like states that are poor and rely on handouts) imposing austerity on everyone. Imagine if Greece were to try to dictate what kind of economic policy Germany could use to stimulate its economy. That's what's happening in the US.

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Agony

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3. Only in Bizarro-World USA would poor (Republican) states demand austerity.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:27 AM
Jan 2013

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