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How often has the US Federal budget been in balance (or surplus)? (Original Post) PETRUS Jan 2013 OP
So, balanced budgets cause depressions. QED. ( n/t ) Make7 Jan 2013 #1
Or depressions cause unbalanced budgets. Igel Jan 2013 #6
How often has a major corporation been in balance or surplus? randome Jan 2013 #2
The false "family budget" analogy... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #4
I thought Nixon did it once... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #3
Maybe. PETRUS Jan 2013 #5
Economics is so boring... PETRUS Jan 2013 #7

Igel

(35,359 posts)
6. Or depressions cause unbalanced budgets.
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 01:41 PM
Jan 2013

Without information on what caused the depressions, all we're left with is post-hoc reasoning instead of causality.

Interestingly, the "great recession" is billed as the cause of the currently wildly out-of-balance budget, and the recession in 2001 started before the budget cuts that knocked the balance began. The debate for the reason to cut the tax rate is only half-remembered. It started out as "we don't want the surplus to feed the beast" but then quickly morphed into "tax cuts = stimulus."

Nobody believes that tax cuts = stimulus any more. Even if that was the reason given for the temporary FICA tax cut and several other tax reductions.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
2. How often has a major corporation been in balance or surplus?
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:04 AM
Jan 2013

I laugh at the idea of Conservatives saying the government should be run more like a corporation. Well, most corporations borrow money and carry debt ALL THE TIME!

That being said, we do need to work on the deficit and debt before it becomes insurmountable.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
4. The false "family budget" analogy...
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:07 AM
Jan 2013

Families try to pay off their bills (and mortgages) because at some point, people get old and can't work anymore. Governments don't retire.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
3. I thought Nixon did it once...
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:06 AM
Jan 2013

I could be wrong.

Just Googled -- Nixon did it in 1969 and Eisenhower did it in 1956 and 1957. Now some people claim that Nixon's balanced budget was really Johnson's economic policies, and that could be true. But it does appear there was a balanced budget that year, regardless of who gets to claim credit.

PETRUS

(3,678 posts)
5. Maybe.
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:14 AM
Jan 2013

I got the dates from Dr. Kelton at University of Missouri-Kansas City, but I don't know her exact criteria/methodology.

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