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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 12:05 PM Jan 2013

'Stand Your Ground' Linked To Increase In Homicides

Hoekstra recently decided to analyze national crime statistics to see what happens in states that pass stand your ground laws. He found the laws are having a measurable effect on the homicide rate.

"Our study finds that, that homicides go up by 7 to 9 percent in states that pass the laws, relative to states that didn't pass the laws over the same time period," he says.

As to whether the laws reduce crime — by creating a deterrence for criminals — he says, "we find no evidence of any deterrence effect over that same time period."

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based on the available data, it appears that crafters of these laws sought to give good guys more latitude to defend themselves against bad guys. But what Hoekstra's data suggest is that in real-life conflicts, both sides think of the other guy as the bad guy. Both believe the law gives them the right to shoot.

http://www.npr.org/2013/01/02/167984117/-stand-your-ground-linked-to-increase-in-homicide
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'Stand Your Ground' Linked To Increase In Homicides (Original Post) phantom power Jan 2013 OP
Yes, we live in a spaghetti western and dueling is again in vogue... PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #1
Kind of like the unintended consequences of the death penalty loyalsister Jan 2013 #2

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
1. Yes, we live in a spaghetti western and dueling is again in vogue...
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 12:09 PM
Jan 2013

"One possibility for the increase in homicide is that perhaps [in cases where] there would have been a fistfight ... now, because of stand your ground laws, it's possible that those escalate into something much more violent and lethal," says Hoekstra.

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But what Hoekstra's data suggest is that in real-life conflicts, both sides think of the other guy as the bad guy. Both believe the law gives them the right to shoot."

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
2. Kind of like the unintended consequences of the death penalty
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 12:32 PM
Jan 2013

If a person is looking at the death penalty why not kill the cop and see if they can get away. A person committing a robbery is in a stand your ground situation why not shoot before the risk of getting shot arises?

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