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No doubt about it, we're screwed!! (Original Post) Playinghardball Jan 2013 OP
So depressing... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #1
We've taken paradise and practically destroyed it ... n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #2
A man named Thom Hartmann once said: jonthebru Jan 2013 #3
Great links! ReRe Jan 2013 #6
Indeed so. Hartmann was SPOT ON with that. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #13
Absolutely! mimi85 Jan 2013 #15
Thanks Mimi. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #18
Yep...think about it...we're like mold multiplying and growing on the surface of an orange. nt. OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #4
Looks like the Supernova outter-layers are about to hit us sooner than... Amonester Jan 2013 #5
We're an invasive species. UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #7
As a rational, thinking person, I question this conclusion of yours quite strongly. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #10
Darwin and Malthus already know the answer. xtraxritical Jan 2013 #19
Kick. *Note Petitions to sign. glinda Jan 2013 #8
"The earth is an organism, and that organism has a skin; that skin has diseases... alterfurz Jan 2013 #9
An excellent reminder for birth control. Flaxbee Jan 2013 #11
Does ZPG (zero population growth) still exist? I never had any kids, they're such an xtraxritical Jan 2013 #20
Yes, indeed, there is a problem. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #12
Earth's Acne - The Human Race cantbeserious Jan 2013 #14
"Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet." MrScorpio Jan 2013 #16
You don't know what you got til it's gone.... sheshe2 Jan 2013 #17
K&R Friday night's Bill Moyers Journal was on climate change. snappyturtle Jan 2013 #21
That's why the main concern of this board - what douchebag republican A, B, or C, said or did - whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #22

jonthebru

(1,034 posts)
3. A man named Thom Hartmann once said:
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 05:42 PM
Jan 2013

"Despair is not an option!"

https://movetoamend.org/

http://anticorruptionact.org/

Are you active, engaged and involved in you local community?
We can't each do everything, we can't be involved in every issue. But we can do something. Maybe one thing.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
13. Indeed so. Hartmann was SPOT ON with that.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:51 PM
Jan 2013

And there are people out there, like Bill McKibben, for example, who are doing their very best to help make a better world possible. And I salute them for it.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
18. Thanks Mimi.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 08:04 PM
Jan 2013

As Herculean of a task as it may seem at times, mitigating global warming is not impossible. Loads and loads of scientific research has been done that shows us how it can be done. Really, it's not at all a question of "Can we do it?", but "when will we do it?". And time is of the essence if we want a good chance of avoiding a 2-3*C temperature rise by 2100 or so.

 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
7. We're an invasive species.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:33 PM
Jan 2013

When you think about it that way it kind of makes all of our self-important problems and squabbles and wars seem trivial doesn't it? We're apes with too much intelligence and no common sense. It's too late to change our course. Homosapiens will keep going the direction we're headed until this planet is destroyed and we cease to exist. If there were beings from other worlds observing us, that would have to be their conclusion.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
10. As a rational, thinking person, I question this conclusion of yours quite strongly.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:46 PM
Jan 2013

Yes, we have a problem to deal with, a ginormous one, and one that has proven to be tough to solve. But to say that we will cease to exist? The honest truth is, reality says otherwise, even if a select few people really DO want us to disappear.

alterfurz

(2,475 posts)
9. "The earth is an organism, and that organism has a skin; that skin has diseases...
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:37 PM
Jan 2013

...and one of these diseases is man." -- Nietzsche

Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
11. An excellent reminder for birth control.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:48 PM
Jan 2013

Honest to god, if there were fewer of us rampaging about this planet, Earth would be in much better shape.

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
20. Does ZPG (zero population growth) still exist? I never had any kids, they're such an
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 08:42 PM
Jan 2013

expensive buzz kill.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
12. Yes, indeed, there is a problem.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 06:50 PM
Jan 2013

Humans per se? No, not really. It IS, however, certain things that we are doing, that are causing problems. I'm not just talking about Co2 output.....the problem is much deeper than that; it's also deforestation, strip mining, mountaintop removal, and, yes, even ground pollution is a problem(such as what has sometimes occurred with fracking).

But calling us an "invasive species", while understandable to a point, isn't quite helping us get the word out. I would much rather let facts do the talking.....what we really need, are more presentations like "Chasing Ice&quot I haven't seen it yet, btw, but I would love to!), and more people like our own GreenMan and the Skeptical Science guys(and far less like David Wasdell and Guy McPherson for that matter!), laying out actual science.

sheshe2

(83,925 posts)
17. You don't know what you got til it's gone....
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 07:47 PM
Jan 2013

Big Yellow Taxi
by Joni Mitchell

They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel *, a boutique
And a swinging hot spot

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

They took all the trees
Put 'em in a tree museum *
And they charged the people
A dollar and a half just to see 'em

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

Hey farmer farmer
Put away that DDT * now
Give me spots on my apples
But leave me the birds and the bees
Please!

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

Late last night
I heard the screen door slam
And a big yellow taxi
Took away my old man

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

The song was written about Hawaii. If you go to the site,it will tell you the history about the Pink Hotel and the Tree Museum. Interesting.

Thanks for the post,Playinghardball!

She

http://jonimitchell.com/music/song.cfm?id=208

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
21. K&R Friday night's Bill Moyers Journal was on climate change.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 08:54 PM
Jan 2013
http://billmoyers.com/

Check out #1 for the full video and #4 for additional resources. His guest, a Yale scholar as I recall, thinks we're pretty much screwed although he has some hope. This is a good CALM look at the realities we're facing. imho

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
22. That's why the main concern of this board - what douchebag republican A, B, or C, said or did -
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:04 PM
Jan 2013

no longer resonates with many of us.

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