am I wrong?

Mainly The End of America. But that doesn't mean she's infallible, or that she isn't getting out of touch, particularly if she's working with Alex Jones these days.

because she's so often confused with Naomi Klein.

DUers get them mixed up all the time. Wolf is the one that spoke out in support of Ron Paul in 2007.

LOL: Case in point.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022147081#post9

but she's no Naomi Klein. I loved loved loved The Shock Doctrine.

But yeah people do confuse them.

I can't stand people who stand on their anti-capitalism soapboxes while growing wealthy on the sales of their books, DVD,s etc. It really is quite appalling. Plus her outright lies in the Shock Doctrine and misquoting was disgraceful..

I'm a bit skeptical of your take of the book.

To Klein there's two types of capitalism, good capitalism and bad capitalism. What's good capitalism? Why whatever she does to allow herself to become wealthy and influential. What's bad you ask? Any industry she disapproves of.

Look one can criticize capitalism, just walk the walk. And she flat out lied about Friedman and Chile for example..

Chicago School and Keynesian School. You can become wealthy and influential following either. What's bad? Read the book, or read up on those two schools of economics.

You're going to have to get into more detail about your claims that she lied. I have a feeling you are a fan of the school of economics she writes about and that's why you don't like her.

And misquotes?

Or Jeff as the case may be.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=299273&sub=trans

Last weekend they came for Matt Taibbi.

Now it's time for Naomi Wolf.

Just because she was interviewed by Alex Jones?

Gee. Maybe she decided to grant an interview with weird Al because the corporate stooges at ABCNNBCBSFauxNoiseNutoworks have no room on the schedule for someone who tells the truth?

FWIW: The Feds and Big Banks worked together to spy and disrupt OWS.

"The Feds and Big Banks worked together to spy and disrupt OWS."

....monitoring, it has nothing to do with "violent" crackdowns coordinated with big banks.

Oh, and the title of the document is: "FBI Documents Reveal Secret Nationwide Occupy Monitoring"

Wolf is a nut!

he thinks Wolf is Klein.

Sid

Show me even ONE post where you criticize Wall Street and their crooks in Washington.

There isn't one, is there siddithers?

Using GOOGLE or going by memory of Naomi Klein or Naomi Wolf:

No where on DU do you criticize the banksters or their crooks in Washington, siddithers.

You do criticize other DUers for what they write, however.

I like you bringing up the threats, zappaman.

My good friends have noticed.

Ummmm...ok...where exactly have I threatened you, friend?

When did you turn into a bot?

Sid

that stupid ignorant hate gotten hidden by the jury.

good to know .. thanks Sid Dithers

Hi Sid, what's your opinion of Naomi Klein?

she seemed to be about self-promotion back then. Guess it worked out for her OK.

She was a writer, then editor of The Varsity. Heard her speak a few times.

I remember she used to be a bit of drinker. But that was twenty three years ago.

Sid

Interesting...

The banks and feds were coordinated in their work to spy (on) and disrupt OWS.

Sorry if I don't go along with the ride, ProSense. Through her writings, Wolf works to restore justice to America.

the bulk of her arguments were embellishments she pulled out of her ass

If so, you must've missed:

Naomi Wolfe's contention was that LE conspired to harm OWS, when the documents show simple coordination between government agencies and local LE.

Nothing nefarious there.

OWS had no leaders so there was no one to address issues of security so it makes sense that LE would want to know what their plans were.

and he's been going around these past few weeks try iong to spread the asinine theory that Obama staged Sandy Hook to come and take all o' yer guns away!!!!

He's a rightwing, lying piece of shit

Now you are defending Alex Jones?
Sad...

Otherwise, it's typical to see you on you diligent mini-minder dude duties.

Maybe you can do it without being insulting?

I do know he gives voice to people who do not get interviewed by Corporate McPravda.

No opinion at all?
Do you think he is a valid journalist doing the world a service by his interviews as well as his views?

The best measure of the importance of her message is the personal attacks being made on her.

Sheesh!

She is drawing quite the mob! She is on to something for sure.

then by what i read on DU the republicans has to REALLY REALLY be onto something >.>

something something Nazis
Derp!

Written by Eric Lichtblau for The New York Times:

am I arguing with Glenn Beck here?

Otherwise, you are making an excellent case for why ignorance is not bliss.

and not worth going off in a tangent over

Says a lot about you, Adenoid_Hynkel.

and how, pray tell, was I doing that?

and mocking your invoking of the Nazi card is not an example

He tells people he disagrees with to shut up, too.

Thanks in advance!

Lots of insults!
And you can't back up your accusations!

You are disappointing, old chum.

What does that have to do with the OP?
Remember this song, my friend?
NSFW

PS: I've mentioned it before to you, zappaman: There is nothing funny about the assassination of President Kennedy.

The OP is about Naomi Wolf's analysis of OFW.
Not nazis.
Not JFK.

I know you are excited about tonight's national championship, but try to stay on topic!

Anything she says is automatically bullshit.

I believe the opposite of everything the kooks believe. It's a good method for not being wrong.

If she is working with him, that is quite disappointing as she has a track record of excellent work.

she jumped the shark long ago

Remember, her supposedly amazing discovery about Occupy last year was based on nothing more than an anonymously-sourced story from the rightwing the Examiner.

His series of blog posts was excellent.

Sid

Seriously?
I hate that fuck more than Rush and Hannity combined.
How is she working with him?

LOVE IT!

Now you're just making shit up

LOL!

The language used in the alert sounded a lot like your posts in this thread. If it wasn't your alert, sorry, but there was an alert I am not making shit up.

On the left.

For your information, Wolf didn't "hook up" with Alex Jones, she did what, a total of three interviews with the man. Thousands of politicians, pundits and authors have done the same, are they all now somehow tainted as well, not credible?

Sorry, but I value the opinion of somebody like Wolf much more than some anonymous political chatboard poster.

Contending that communications between various LE agencies amounts to trying to 'take down' OWS is alarmist bullshit.

OWS had no leaders so no one was available to speak for them. It makes sense for LE to want an idea of what they were doing.

Books like The Shock Doctrine and The Beauty Myth to be quite credible.

As far as OWS goes, umm, your MoJo article even mentions how there was cross communication between local law enforcement, the FBI, and DHS among others.

Time for another cup of coffee.

However Wolf also wrote another fine book, The End of America. She's still more credible than some anonymous internet poster.

I swear, half the reason people are buying this Wolf nonsense is that they can't keep their Naomis straight

And stop having a cow.

But she takes that further and says there were coordinated plans to destroy OWS. That's not what the FOI documents show.

In fact there are a raft of illegalities that went on during the protests of the '60's that didn't come to light for years and decades.

So please, don't tell me to trust the usual experts and such, they have been discredited time and again.

But I'll continue to make assumptions and judgments based on what I know.

Despite all of his birtherism, race baiting and black helicopter militia lunacy.

She's an irresponsible hack

Hell, even Obama calls Boehner a fine fellow, do you think he is now somehow compromised?

vs. Wolf's repeated visits to Jones' and Savage's whackjob programs to give the hosts a tongue bath.

Our little group of corporate defenders *really* wants to take her down. They find this one threatening, it seems.

How predictable, the Third Way swarm.

often confuse her with NK. Still, I think it's getting harder and harder to sift through what is handed to us as democracy & throw out tinfoil...facts are often stranger than fiction. Now, Alex Jones, OTOH is a tough sell, he's raking in the dough and mostly on BS.

rather than the speculation, distortions and gut feelings of the Alex Jones crowd.

Wolf isn't doing Occupy any favors by promoting this paranoia.

Just as her round of nonsense last year turned out to be B.S. based on the anonymously-sourced 'journalism' of the rightwing rag the Examiner, this one's also a load of crap.

And, seriously, you're going to throw Mother Jones under the bus as a corporate defender for challenging Wolf?

She plays to their paranoid black helicopter fantasies, and deals in speculation and hunches rather than facts.

One might begin to wonder if certain people overstate the surveilllence. etc., in order to tamp down enthusiastic participation.

is awesome.