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highplainsdem

(49,002 posts) Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:15 PM Jan 2012

TPM: Polls show independent voters rejecting Romney

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/01/independent-voters-put-the-drop-on-romney.php

On Tuesday a new survey from ABC News and the Washington Post showed a massive spike in Romney’s unfavorability. In short, the former governor went from a positive rating (plus 5 two weeks ago) to a starkly negative one (minus 18). The internals of past ABC/WaPo surveys showed that partisan voters were very steady — Republicans had remained at nearly 60 percent favorable while Democrats were in the low twenties. But when it came to independent voters, Romney went from a positive 41 - 34 split to a negative 23 - 51, showing themselves to be the culprit in the overall drop.

The ABC/WaPo numbers were certainly more stark, but Public Policy Polling (D) also showed a spike in unfavorability among independents. A small deficit of eight points in December doubled to sixteen in January, at 38 - 54. And other data shows just how fast Romney’s more general crash in favorability came about as the first actual votes of the primary season were cast. CNN and Fox numbers showed an near-even split on both general favorability and amongst independents directly after his New Hampshire primary win. A week later Pew showed him down on the metric 33 - 47.

The trend is especially worrying for Romney because he’s staked his political claim on the idea of electability. That prospect hasn’t gone away with this latest drop among independent voters — even though he’s slipping, he still remains very competitive in a national matchup against Obama. But Romney is essentially digging himself a hole in a year when he should be on the electoral high ground.

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TPM: Polls show independent voters rejecting Romney (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2012 OP

I'm waiting for the GOP to shut Gingrich down. I hope they do, anyway. TwilightGardener Jan 2012 #1

I'm sure they will pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #7

Go to one of your homes and hifiguy Jan 2012 #2

I'm surprised 20% of Democrats have a favorable rating of Mittens. City Lights Jan 2012 #3

That's the biggest concern I have about Romney Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #4

In Massachusetts, he had to work with a liberal legislature. That wouldn't be the case if he were P SharonAnn Jan 2012 #18

Nobody likes a rich asshole Botany Jan 2012 #5

He's not quite the A--hole that Newt is. But nanabugg Jan 2012 #11

"The trend" isn't "especially worrying" for me. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #6

If the Independents are against Romney, and Pelosi says that she knows Gingrich will never be Cal33 Jan 2012 #8

Wow, what a drop CanonRay Jan 2012 #9

Hatred for Mitt is peaking too soon. yardwork Jan 2012 #10

I don't think it's peaking too soon for him to lose Florida ... GOTV Jan 2012 #12

There is that. But I don't want the Republicans to find somebody electable. yardwork Jan 2012 #15

He's NOT appealing to independents? rocktivity Jan 2012 #13

I just saw that ad for the first time this morning leftynyc Jan 2012 #14

You guys are so wrong! Hubert Flottz Jan 2012 #16

I can't get past the Mittens reference. Sounds close to kittens. I envision him rolling in catnip. freshwest Jan 2012 #17

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)

1. I'm waiting for the GOP to shut Gingrich down. I hope they do, anyway.

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:18 PM

Jan 2012

I won't be able to stand his putrid blather for the next nine months.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)

7. I'm sure they will

Reply to TwilightGardener (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:24 PM

Jan 2012

And when their assessment indicates Romney can't win, they'll bring in their new guy at the convention.

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)

2. Go to one of your homes and

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:20 PM

Jan 2012

hug your money, Mittens. You represent nothing other than economic royalists and royalism. Now everybody knows it.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)

3. I'm surprised 20% of Democrats have a favorable rating of Mittens.

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:24 PM

Jan 2012

I'm glad he's tanking.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)

4. That's the biggest concern I have about Romney

Reply to City Lights (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:34 PM

Jan 2012

most people probably look at his record as a more "moderate" governor of Massachusetts as more of a guide as to the kind of POTUS he might be and aren't as worried about him being POTUS (and/or see relatively few differences between him and Obama). Of course, anybody paying even a smidgen of attention to the GOP primaries should realize that he's doing some "heavy pandering" to the insane GOP Tea Party "base" and that he would almost certainly have to govern from the far right as POTUS- to keep his "base" supportive" of him for a presumed re-election bid- if he managed to get elected- meaning, basically, supporting all of the things that the GOP Tea-Party-controlled House has proposed and/or passed since 2011. He would probably find himself locked into some pretty far out foreign policy positions as well.

SharonAnn

(13,776 posts)

18. In Massachusetts, he had to work with a liberal legislature. That wouldn't be the case if he were P

Reply to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:15 AM

Jan 2012

Botany

(70,516 posts)

5. Nobody likes a rich asshole

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:42 PM

Jan 2012

nanabugg

(2,198 posts)

11. He's not quite the A--hole that Newt is. But

Reply to Botany (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 03:09 PM

Jan 2012

I am waiting for the Mormon backlash against the GOP. The GOP evangelicals have to be the most hateful group of religious bigots around.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)

6. "The trend" isn't "especially worrying" for me.

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:18 PM

Jan 2012

I have my issues with independent voters, because they tend to be more conservative than I like, but Romney's a fake, and perhaps they're finally catching on?

Cal33

(7,018 posts)

8. If the Independents are against Romney, and Pelosi says that she knows Gingrich will never be

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:32 PM

Jan 2012

president, whom else do we have left among the Repubs? SANTORUM !!! God save us!
He's as bad, if not worse, than the other two!

CanonRay

(14,104 posts)

9. Wow, what a drop

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:39 PM

Jan 2012

You'd think they'd found the pics of him with little boys. If he doesn't turn that around quickly, he's (milk)toast.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)

10. Hatred for Mitt is peaking too soon.

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:55 PM

Jan 2012

GOTV

(3,759 posts)

12. I don't think it's peaking too soon for him to lose Florida ...

Reply to yardwork (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 04:17 PM

Jan 2012

... and I really want him to lose Florida because I think the GOP fireworks that ensue will be spectacular.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)

15. There is that. But I don't want the Republicans to find somebody electable.

Reply to GOTV (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 05:35 PM

Jan 2012

I was hoping that they would nominate Mitt and THEN find out that he's unelectable.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)

13. He's NOT appealing to independents?

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 05:01 PM

Jan 2012

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To paraphrase that E-trade commercial:

Excuse me while I put on my "shocked" face!

rocktivity

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)

14. I just saw that ad for the first time this morning

Reply to rocktivity (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 05:08 PM

Jan 2012

I didn't think I was capable of laughing that hard so early in the morning. Just as hard as when he was whining about riding the dog not being appreciated at that establishment. Whoever is writing that stuff should get an award.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)

16. You guys are so wrong!

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 06:04 PM

Jan 2012

Spread that hate around! Don't just focus it all on one of the bastids! I can't think of any republican that I really like? None...

freshwest

(53,661 posts)

17. I can't get past the Mittens reference. Sounds close to kittens. I envision him rolling in catnip.

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:10 AM

Jan 2012

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