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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo today 58% support an assault weapons ban.
Seems like the political will is growing.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)to protect them.
Which category do you think is most likely to be acted on?
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)It's an illness not a crime to be mentally ill.
I have a mental illness should I be controlled?
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)That's from a Pew poll.
It doesn't name what they might do, it just puts them on the poll so that the position of high capacity magazines and AWB poll much further down the list.
You should be controlled in a loving, caring and functional way so that you can reach your own potential.
It's not an easy task. You're right. Mental illness is not a crime.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)and a loving wife. My mother in law on the other hand, well let's not go into that
Cary
(11,746 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Sigh
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)is a valid definition the manufacturers will find a way to get around it.
I think you should be prepared to give up on that idea. It's just not going to be the case that you will be satisfied.
Lex
(34,108 posts)here eventually. It's not like the law cannot be written and updated periodically.
The public's will is growing and the NRA is looking more foolish by the hour.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)The US is the only country that has tried to do it this way, by regulating what a semi-automatic weapon can and can't look like. Other countries simply highly restricted access to all semi-automatic weapons, whatever they look like. That's probably a good idea.
Lex
(34,108 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)It has to be about 70% or more, so an assault weapons ban is out, but high capacity magazines are probably in.
Cary
(11,746 posts)It was written in a totally different age with a purpose that is no longer applicable. We aren't afraid of our standing army and if we had reason to be afraid there's really not a lot that weapons would be able to do about it.
Isn't passive resistance more effective than violence?
Bodega Bandit
(3 posts)for the public to have death spewers. Guns are on their way out.
stultusporcos
(327 posts)I was not asked nor were my wife or any of my friends.
so 58% of how many respondents?
Lex
(34,108 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)You take a random sample. If it is truly a random sample, (everyone in the sample population has the same chance of being picked) what is true about the sample is true about the population it was drawn from within the margin of error. The larger the sample the lower the margin of error.
So they don't have to ask you or your wife.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)In college my statistics professor said that statistics should not be part of mathematics. Mathematics is about absolutes and things that can proven. 2+2=4. You can prove with 100% certainty that statement is true and not many will dispute you.
You can't do this with statistics. Statistical polls are wrong 100% of the time. The only question is how wrong are they? The margin of error depends on far more than just the sample size. Who did they sample? All adults? American citizens? Anyone that picked up the phone? Likely voters?
Then you got to look at how the questions are worded. Are they specific? Is the question loaded? How would most people perceive the question?
You can influence the results simply by changing the wording of the question. The fact this question asks about "assault weapons" puts the whole thing into question. Because every person in this country seems to have a different definition of what an assault weapon is. So when you ask these people if they favor an assault weapons ban, they don't think of it in the way the government is thinking of it...they are thinking of it as they themselves define it. Which means you would tend to skew the results in the favorable side.
Everything needs to be clearly defined for there to be standard across all people.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)You can't dismiss all polls as 100% wrong all the time. On edit: I don't disagree with much you say but the post said he wasn't asked so I gave the reason he didn't need to be asked.
frylock
(34,825 posts)stultusporcos
(327 posts)so I question the metholodgy.
Did you know according to a national survey 80% of America thinks Hot Coffee Enemas are a great first date ice breaker!
Statistics are fun!
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)those are the polls that are being studied very closely.
phillipstd
(4 posts)you can shoot just as fast with a lever action that holds 12+ rounds, banning a black gun, a semi auto gun, a pistol, a gun with a bayonet like ones used in the civil war, will only piss off legal gun owners and make them vote conservative next time around. most people support this because they do not understand that it includes most guns. You would be singing a different song if they were taking away the first amendment....