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The LDS didn't accept black men into the priesthood (which all male Mormons aspire to) until Romney (Original Post) pnwmom Jan 2012 OP
yes Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #1
don't know, but all male Mormons don't aspire to become priests quinnox Jan 2012 #2
there are 2priesthoods and boys enter 1at about ten or11 roguevalley Jan 2012 #3
that may be quinnox Jan 2012 #4
Romney is. End of story jberryhill Jan 2012 #7
you will note I didn't refer to Romney quinnox Jan 2012 #10
"I don't know" jberryhill Jan 2012 #13
when I said "don't know" quinnox Jan 2012 #15
I should have said "most" or "average." The large majority of Mormon males start on this path pnwmom Jan 2012 #14
We may hate Romney MattBaggins Jan 2012 #5
Didn't equality come because they were about to lose their tax exempt status for discrimination? NNN0LHI Jan 2012 #17
Could be MattBaggins Jan 2012 #21
I've seen Mitt comment on this creeksneakers2 Jan 2012 #6
Good point nt ecstatic Jan 2012 #8
The situation with the Mormon church was a well known institutional belief system unlike the comment Ecumenist Jan 2012 #11
Why yes, yes he did. Talk is cheap, Romney and though it may not be the most politically correct Ecumenist Jan 2012 #9
and why the church changed is quite a story Hamlette Jan 2012 #12
Just by the virtual fact that Romney is a repuke gopiscrap Jan 2012 #16
It says more about the Mormon "faith" than about Romney... bhikkhu Jan 2012 #18
Then he's not being truthful now when he denies being a "cafeteria Mormon." pnwmom Jan 2012 #19
that's all in the past. Blacks can now wear majic underwear too. arely staircase Jan 2012 #20
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
2. don't know, but all male Mormons don't aspire to become priests
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:50 PM
Jan 2012

trust me on this, I have friends that are Mormons.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
4. that may be
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:54 PM
Jan 2012

but it sounded like the OP was saying all male Mormons wanted to be adult priests, and this is incorrect. Whenever you use a generalization like "all" it is almost invariably going to be wrong.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. Romney is. End of story
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:06 PM
Jan 2012

The first level of Mormon "priesthood", as noted, is for teenage boys. You may rest assured that Romney attained it as do the vast majority.
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
10. you will note I didn't refer to Romney
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:11 PM
Jan 2012

in my post, but said "I don't know". My objection didn't have anything to do with Romney.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. "I don't know"
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:22 PM
Jan 2012

Well of course he did, since he then went on to do his missionary tour.

And if any of your friends are temple-recommended, they are too.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
15. when I said "don't know"
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:36 PM
Jan 2012

I was referring to this question posed in the OP: "Does that mean he approved of the ban on black men until he was 31?"

Apparently, there is some debate about this as other replies in the thread say Romney might have objected to the ban.

I'm sure Romney was a priest in the Mormon church as they define it.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
14. I should have said "most" or "average." The large majority of Mormon males start on this path
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:22 PM
Jan 2012

as boys.

http://www.pbs.org/mormons/faqs/structure.html

Mormon males typically enter the first order, the "Aaronic" priesthood, at age 12 as "deacons." As they learn more, they progress to the levels of "teacher" and then "priest," usually by age 18.

At age 18, the average Mormon man enters the second (higher) "Melchizedek" priesthood as an "elder." It is at this point that they become eligible to serve on a mission, take on such leadership positions as bishop (local pastor) and stake president, perhaps even advancing to higher ranks within the church, such as joining a Quorum of the Seventy or becoming an apostle.

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
5. We may hate Romney
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:55 PM
Jan 2012

but there may be truth to the fact that his father was one of the voices in the Church advocating for equality.

creeksneakers2

(7,473 posts)
6. I've seen Mitt comment on this
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:04 PM
Jan 2012

He said the rule really tore him up. Perhaps that's true, but I don't like the double standard when it comes to Obama and Reverend Wright. Obama was held responsible by the right for everything that went on in his church. They say if Obama went to that church he must have believed it too. When it comes to Romney and LDS racism though, its a different story.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
11. The situation with the Mormon church was a well known institutional belief system unlike the comment
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:13 PM
Jan 2012

of the "Reverend" Wright and whether or not Obama attended his church.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
9. Why yes, yes he did. Talk is cheap, Romney and though it may not be the most politically correct
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:08 PM
Jan 2012

thing to say, most black people DO NOT TRUST THE MORMON CHURCH because of that and cannot understand why people like Gladys Knight would ever join such a group voluntarily.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
12. and why the church changed is quite a story
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:16 PM
Jan 2012

in the 70s the church was taking heat on their policy re: blacks from 2 sources. As the church converted more people in Africa and South America it wanted to open temples on those continents but some of the countries balked because you can't get into the temple unless you hold the priesthood ie unless you are white and "delightsome".

The other area was the boy scouts. The church has a boy scout troop in each ward (local church) but you couldn't be a troup leader (adult leader or boy leader) unless you held the priesthood. Again, were white. The boy scouts of america was sued by the NAACP (if I remember correctly) to disassociate with the church because of the practice. It was set to go to court the very day after god told the church president he'd been wrong all along and blacks were okay. I was actually following the boy scout case very closely (young lawyer that I was at the time).

God also told the church president it was okay to drink Coca Cola (lift the ban on on some types of caffeine) when Coke signed a contract to buy all of its sugar from a church own sugar company.

And while I make fun of the mormon church, honestly, there is plenty of looney in all churches to go around (that waver actually turns into the flesh of a man who has been dead for 2,000 years?)

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
16. Just by the virtual fact that Romney is a repuke
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 09:41 PM
Jan 2012

it makes him a racist, selfish asshole pig...being a mormon just amplifies it!!!

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
18. It says more about the Mormon "faith" than about Romney...
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:02 PM
Jan 2012

at least according to an NPR story, which was talking about the recent book about Romney - the Romney family was actively against the ban, and was a part of it being eliminated.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
19. Then he's not being truthful now when he denies being a "cafeteria Mormon."
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:14 PM
Jan 2012

If he was actively against the ban, then he was picking and choosing which beliefs to adhere to, just as most members of religions do.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
20. that's all in the past. Blacks can now wear majic underwear too.
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:18 PM
Jan 2012

i'm sure they have been fighting one another to sign up for that honor ever since they were recognized as fully human by the powers that be in salt lake city.

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