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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI knew that Jan Brewer was a B***H,
but WOW. She is supremely NASTY. I gotta ask the question though, would she have gotten in Obama's face like that if he was white?
I think I can guess the answer.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)MarianJack
(10,237 posts)Last edited Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:26 PM - Edit history (1)
...she wouldn't feel the need to "put him in his place".
I will say this again. This was a deliberately planned stunt to appeal to the teabagger/racist base and possibly ignite some VP speculation.
PEACE!
arthritisR_US
(7,299 posts)MarianJack
(10,237 posts)PEACE!
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Just sayin'.
The amount of blatant disrespect and racism directed at this president is NOTHING like I've ever witnessed before...
...and I'm from the South!!!!
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)That is their entire strategy since his election.
PEACE!
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)It was staged, perfect, in time with the cameras and the press.
What an idiot!!
P.S. Even my conservative friends are embarrassed and agree that not only is she stupid and petty, she's also a liar (re: White House meeting). Even they argue that the disrepectful behavior was way out of line. No one would have pulled that shit with Bush, Reagan, Clinton, not even Jimmy Carter.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)She wants to inspire the racist/bagger base and instigate some VP speculation.
Since Jiminy Cricket tried to teach me to not say anything if you couldn't say anything nice, AND since my real uncensored opinion of brewer was hidden last night, I'll leave it at that.
PEACE!
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)I don't recall ever seeing a governor or MOC get in Bush's face like that.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...never let anyone who opposed him in so close a proximity.
PEACE!
Pirate Smile
(27,617 posts)All Presidents get attacked & bashed HOWEVER there is a personal, along with the political, tenor & scale of the attacks, abuse & disrespect that this President has to deal with that previous Presidents didn't because he is a first.
He also, of course, has to be extra careful in how he responds to the trash - ala Jackie Robinson. Brewer has now said that she "felt threatened". Really? She was the one sticking her finger in his face.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...is based entirely on the fact that they can't stand having a black president.
The fact that he's so much smarter than they only enrages them more.
PEACE!
graywarrior
(59,440 posts)MarianJack
(10,237 posts)PEACE!
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Is she so delusional that she actually believes that she could run and become VP?
Wait a sec. Sarah Palin. Michelle Bachmann, Rick Santorum, Sharon Engle, Christine O'Donnell. . . . I am beginning to see a pattern here.
surrealAmerican
(11,364 posts)... and I also suspect that she's not sufficiently introspective to understand that this is why she did that.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Furthermore, during a Senate vote Wednesday, Obama dragged Lieberman by the hand to a far corner of the Senate chamber and engaged in what appeared to reporters in the gallery as an intense, three-minute conversation. While it was unclear what the two were discussing, the body language suggested that Obama was trying to convince Lieberman of something and his stance appeared slightly intimidating. Obama literally backed up Lieberman against the wall, leaned in very close at times, and appeared to be trying to dominate the conversation, as the two talked over each other in a few instances.
I'm tired of people saying this stupid shit.
Obama doesn't have to be like ANYONE but himself!
Arkana
(24,347 posts)Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)What the hell is going on in THAT pic?
Response to Shankapotomus (Reply #18)
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Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)"break" promises or things they campaigned on:
If you want to make changes that you truly beleive in, you have to hold onto power. But if you have another party against you that's postulating the opposite solutions, with a whole bunch of voters backing them up, you have to appear to compromise to defeat your opponent. You have to constantly pivot back and forth between your true professed beliefs and the beliefs that will take some of your opponents votes away from them. Admittedly, it's a game but it's a necessary and important game that your own constituents don't always realize you are playing. And so they end up getting angry at you because they don't realize you're just trying to keep power in the hands of democrats to slowly institute the changes most democrats beleive in. So very often it may appear Obama is selling but that is only because he have a conservative movement and their voters to deal with. You don't go all in on everything you want all at once and risk angering a huge swath of voters or perhaps failing at at change monumentally. You take it slow.
Think of it this way: what would happen if we kept voting democrat no matter what? If you dry out the republican power well, you eliminate your opponent. If you eliminate your opponent, you don't have to contend with them or their voters. You can finally institute the changes you really beleive in without political repercussions.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)English has many words you can use. Choose another one, please.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)cliffordu
(30,994 posts)when discussing Brewer.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)"Boy that Jan Brewer sure is a bagel!"
zbdent
(35,392 posts)despite the fact that you aren't a governor, and she isn't the President ...
Segami
(14,923 posts)PassingFair
(22,434 posts)And possibly on drugs.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)MarianJack
(10,237 posts)Can you IMAGINE what Joe Biden would do to her in a VP debate? It wouldn't be pretty for the rethugs.
PEACE!
waddirum
(979 posts)They could name him Brainfahrt.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Last edited Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:41 PM - Edit history (1)
oh wait, we wont use the n word, right? just sexist terminology on du.
At Thu Jan 26, 2012, 11:53 AM you sent an alert on the following post:
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YOUR COMMENTS:
The poster could have used many different words to describe Brewer, but he choose an offensive, sexist term.
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Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: I agree with the alerter. Even with astricks, it's obvious what word the OP meant. He could have chosen another adjective to describe Brewer instead of a sexist one.
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Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: Agree with the person who sent the alert. A different choice of words would have been better.
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Thank you.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)I'm not sure where to go on this beyond alerting.
TBF
(32,100 posts)We know that some folks (myself included) slip at times, others consistently push the boundaries. It is the latter I'm more concerned about and my feeling is that eventually it catches up with them because most juries are not so lenient.
obamanut2012
(26,142 posts)TBF
(32,100 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)they are intellectually lacking.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)so i posted my post, as offensive as i see it, hoping someone along the way gets it. and the results. what gets me, is if they posted this in freeperland
hillary is a
gifford is a
pelosi is a
we would be all in a titter about the knuckledraggin misogynists.....
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)Juries are inconsistent with posts like this, so I guess all we can do is post directly in the thread. I'm not sure whether that will work over time, but it seems like the best approach. Keep alerting and then, if the jury comes back without hiding the post, post in the thread itself and make the point. Ask the poster if he'd call his mother or sister that name. There are so many better words that can be used that have no sexism attached to them. Perhaps some people's vocabularies don't stretch very far.
BTW, did you check off the TOS option in your alert. If you always do that, some recent arrivals may get banned. Not always, but sometimes.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i have learned it since.
i think, what i see as a postive on it, with people continually speaking out and some posts are hidden, it effects our ability to jury on du. and seeing it is 3/3 and other threads have been hidden, an observant poster may ask themselves if it is worth hurting their record with a hidden post.
one more juror and it would have gone the other way. other posts today have been hidden. one the other night making warner into a play thing. people will think twice.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,367 posts)you can just type '"Pelosi" "bitch"' in the DU search box to see some of the results. There are many DUers who consider it an acceptable term to use; and back then, many who thought Pelosi was worthy of being insulted like that.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)that would be a way to still find them on du2. but seems to me, the mods would delete.
vulture socialist
(8 posts)Or did s/he mean ASSTRICKS?
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Response to DemonSpawn (Original post)
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MineralMan
(146,333 posts)a bit suspicious, I think.
Initech
(100,104 posts)First Brewer is certifiably psychotic. Second if they'd think for themselves instead of letting Fux and Limbaugh do their thinking for them they'd realize it wasn't that awesome.
TBF
(32,100 posts)the vitriol I'm seeing from some towards our POTUS is something else. I blame FAUX news for alot of the tension that we've seen the past few years. IMO they've taken the racism out there and amplified it.
Initech
(100,104 posts)400%!!!!!! 400%!!!! I agree that the hatred and vitriol spewed from Fux and AM hate radio everyday is fucking disgusting and it's only gonna get worse. Even if Obama is reelected it's gonna be a long four years.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)your mother or sister? Think about it, then try to think of some other word to use, please.
Bozita
(26,955 posts)I'm sure she won Joe Wilson's vote.
Hatchling
(2,323 posts)malicious, despicable, disagreeable, evil, hateful, malevolent, rancorous, spiteful, venomous, vicious, arrogant.
Or if it must be a derogatory term, you could try Asshole which can be a gender neutral term.
Would you consider editing your title?
TBF
(32,100 posts)emilyg
(22,742 posts)lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)Would she have gotten in Obama's face like that if they were
not in a public setting and cameras were not present?
Ans: No
demmiblue
(36,896 posts)Erose999
(5,624 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)she has bad sun skin damage...prob a good candidate for skin cancer at this point..
aquart
(69,014 posts)So good.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Mosaic
(1,451 posts)This country is fucking retarded!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)MineralMan
(146,333 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)man, it's infested around here!