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I knew that Jan Brewer was a B***H, (Original Post) DemonSpawn Jan 2012 OP
3....2....1.... Scuba Jan 2012 #1
If he were white,... MarianJack Jan 2012 #2
+1. n/t arthritisR_US Jan 2012 #7
Thanx! MarianJack Jan 2012 #46
Yep! I don't think she would have done that to Bill Clinton. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #8
They hate having a black president. MarianJack Jan 2012 #45
She wanted to show out in front of her crazy, racist Teabag Robots! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #47
Right! MarianJack Jan 2012 #52
I agree with you. Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #22
george w moron... MarianJack Jan 2012 #43
Jackie Robinson popped into my mind when it happened. Pirate Smile Jan 2012 #30
The entire rethug strategy since 1/20/09... MarianJack Jan 2012 #44
+1000 graywarrior Jan 2012 #51
Thankx! MarianJack Jan 2012 #54
VP speculum. ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2012 #55
I strongly suspect you're right ... surrealAmerican Jan 2012 #56
Exactly right. n/t Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #59
Sometimes I wish Obama were a little more LBJ lumberjack_jeff Jan 2012 #3
You mean like *this*... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #12
You mean abrasive, workaholic, and stubborn to the point of insanity? Arkana Jan 2012 #15
LOL Shankapotomus Jan 2012 #18
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #20
To me, this is the deal with presidents who Shankapotomus Jan 2012 #53
Please don't use that word to refer to any woman. MineralMan Jan 2012 #4
I have a couple in mind, but I don't think you'd like them either. backscatter712 Jan 2012 #14
I prefer "Gutless Shitsucking Cretin" cliffordu Jan 2012 #16
Do what they do in the White House with the word "recession": call her a "bagel". Arkana Jan 2012 #17
get ready for being a "fine example" of the "liberal equivalent" ... zbdent Jan 2012 #5
Your description is much too kind! n/t Segami Jan 2012 #6
You left out stupid. PassingFair Jan 2012 #9
stupid would not even needed *****. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #11
Oh My! MarianJack Jan 2012 #13
imagine a love child between Jan and Rick Perry? waddirum Jan 2012 #63
the b**** and the n*****? progressive post? seabeyond Jan 2012 #10
I alerted on the post, too, and saw your result. MineralMan Jan 2012 #19
Some juries are more laid back than others I guess. TBF Jan 2012 #25
Do you mean "more sexist"? obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #28
I was going for a more neutral word, but yes. nt TBF Jan 2012 #31
it just makes du look so stupid. think of the boards that have crap like this in subject seabeyond Jan 2012 #29
i waited before speaking out until jury came back. jury came back saying bitch is ok. seabeyond Jan 2012 #27
I know. I'm at a loss on this stuff as to what to do. MineralMan Jan 2012 #33
i am aware of the TOS situation now. i wasnt at the beginning with a newbie seabeyond Jan 2012 #42
Sadly, Pelosi was frequently called that, on DU, between 2007 and 2009 or so muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #64
i alerted on du2 and they were deleted. maybe these are the ones no one saw to alert seabeyond Jan 2012 #65
"Astricks?" vulture socialist Jan 2012 #26
I find your use of the term offensive to female dogs everywhere! hedgehog Jan 2012 #21
Jan Brewer is a Broth? n/t Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #23
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #24
No. It doesn't. But your post is MineralMan Jan 2012 #36
I just overheard several coworkers discussing how awesome this was. Initech Jan 2012 #32
It's a very troubling picture - TBF Jan 2012 #34
I saw something yesterday that SS activity has risen 400% since 2008. Initech Jan 2012 #41
How would you feel if someone used that word to describe MineralMan Jan 2012 #35
She was auditioning for the veep slot on the GOPer ticket Bozita Jan 2012 #37
Other words you could use instead. Hatchling Jan 2012 #38
thank you. nt TBF Jan 2012 #39
Unrec for using B word about a woman. emilyg Jan 2012 #40
One other scenario occurs to me. lpbk2713 Jan 2012 #48
I also do not appreciate the word you chose to describe Brewer. demmiblue Jan 2012 #49
Whether or not she's a B****, her face looks like a melted candle. Erose999 Jan 2012 #50
Please don't insult bacon....she's a hag HipChick Jan 2012 #57
But bacon looks good. aquart Jan 2012 #66
Enjoy your pizza. nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #58
More idiotic racism Mosaic Jan 2012 #60
so really demonspawn, this was just a drive by to start shit as flamebait, right? nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #61
Yup. The OP has left the building, under escort. MineralMan Jan 2012 #62
another one bites the dust? zappaman Jan 2012 #67
Since someone dropped the B-bomb... backscatter712 Jan 2012 #68

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
2. If he were white,...
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 12:55 PM
Jan 2012

Last edited Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:26 PM - Edit history (1)

...she wouldn't feel the need to "put him in his place".

I will say this again. This was a deliberately planned stunt to appeal to the teabagger/racist base and possibly ignite some VP speculation.

PEACE!

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
8. Yep! I don't think she would have done that to Bill Clinton.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:02 PM
Jan 2012

Just sayin'.

The amount of blatant disrespect and racism directed at this president is NOTHING like I've ever witnessed before...

...and I'm from the South!!!!

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
47. She wanted to show out in front of her crazy, racist Teabag Robots!
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:54 PM
Jan 2012

It was staged, perfect, in time with the cameras and the press.

What an idiot!!

P.S. Even my conservative friends are embarrassed and agree that not only is she stupid and petty, she's also a liar (re: White House meeting). Even they argue that the disrepectful behavior was way out of line. No one would have pulled that shit with Bush, Reagan, Clinton, not even Jimmy Carter.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
52. Right!
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:03 PM
Jan 2012

She wants to inspire the racist/bagger base and instigate some VP speculation.

Since Jiminy Cricket tried to teach me to not say anything if you couldn't say anything nice, AND since my real uncensored opinion of brewer was hidden last night, I'll leave it at that.

PEACE!

Pirate Smile

(27,617 posts)
30. Jackie Robinson popped into my mind when it happened.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:16 PM
Jan 2012

All Presidents get attacked & bashed HOWEVER there is a personal, along with the political, tenor & scale of the attacks, abuse & disrespect that this President has to deal with that previous Presidents didn't because he is a first.

He also, of course, has to be extra careful in how he responds to the trash - ala Jackie Robinson. Brewer has now said that she "felt threatened". Really? She was the one sticking her finger in his face.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
44. The entire rethug strategy since 1/20/09...
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:48 PM
Jan 2012

...is based entirely on the fact that they can't stand having a black president.

The fact that he's so much smarter than they only enrages them more.

PEACE!

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
55. VP speculum.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:07 PM
Jan 2012

Is she so delusional that she actually believes that she could run and become VP?

Wait a sec. Sarah Palin. Michelle Bachmann, Rick Santorum, Sharon Engle, Christine O'Donnell. . . . I am beginning to see a pattern here.

surrealAmerican

(11,364 posts)
56. I strongly suspect you're right ...
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:22 PM
Jan 2012

... and I also suspect that she's not sufficiently introspective to understand that this is why she did that.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
12. You mean like *this*...
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:10 PM
Jan 2012
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=5006126

Furthermore, during a Senate vote Wednesday, Obama dragged Lieberman by the hand to a far corner of the Senate chamber and engaged in what appeared to reporters in the gallery as an intense, three-minute conversation. While it was unclear what the two were discussing, the body language suggested that Obama was trying to convince Lieberman of something and his stance appeared slightly intimidating. Obama literally backed up Lieberman against the wall, leaned in very close at times, and appeared to be trying to dominate the conversation, as the two talked over each other in a few instances.

I'm tired of people saying this stupid shit.

Obama doesn't have to be like ANYONE but himself!

Response to Shankapotomus (Reply #18)

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
53. To me, this is the deal with presidents who
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:03 PM
Jan 2012

"break" promises or things they campaigned on:

If you want to make changes that you truly beleive in, you have to hold onto power. But if you have another party against you that's postulating the opposite solutions, with a whole bunch of voters backing them up, you have to appear to compromise to defeat your opponent. You have to constantly pivot back and forth between your true professed beliefs and the beliefs that will take some of your opponents votes away from them. Admittedly, it's a game but it's a necessary and important game that your own constituents don't always realize you are playing. And so they end up getting angry at you because they don't realize you're just trying to keep power in the hands of democrats to slowly institute the changes most democrats beleive in. So very often it may appear Obama is selling but that is only because he have a conservative movement and their voters to deal with. You don't go all in on everything you want all at once and risk angering a huge swath of voters or perhaps failing at at change monumentally. You take it slow.

Think of it this way: what would happen if we kept voting democrat no matter what? If you dry out the republican power well, you eliminate your opponent. If you eliminate your opponent, you don't have to contend with them or their voters. You can finally institute the changes you really beleive in without political repercussions.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
4. Please don't use that word to refer to any woman.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 12:56 PM
Jan 2012

English has many words you can use. Choose another one, please.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
17. Do what they do in the White House with the word "recession": call her a "bagel".
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:50 PM
Jan 2012

"Boy that Jan Brewer sure is a bagel!"

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
5. get ready for being a "fine example" of the "liberal equivalent" ...
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 12:56 PM
Jan 2012

despite the fact that you aren't a governor, and she isn't the President ...

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
13. Oh My!
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:32 PM
Jan 2012

Can you IMAGINE what Joe Biden would do to her in a VP debate? It wouldn't be pretty for the rethugs.

PEACE!

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
10. the b**** and the n*****? progressive post?
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:07 PM
Jan 2012

Last edited Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:41 PM - Edit history (1)

oh wait, we wont use the n word, right? just sexist terminology on du.

At Thu Jan 26, 2012, 11:53 AM you sent an alert on the following post:



REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

YOUR COMMENTS:

The poster could have used many different words to describe Brewer, but he choose an offensive, sexist term.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Thu Jan 26, 2012, 12:04 PM, and voted 3-3 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: I agree with the alerter. Even with astricks, it's obvious what word the OP meant. He could have chosen another adjective to describe Brewer instead of a sexist one.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: Agree with the person who sent the alert. A different choice of words would have been better.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: Everyone could benefit from gaining a few more vocabulary words. I would love to be able to read all of the threads on DU with my grandchildren looking over my shoulder. I can't do that now.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given

Thank you.

TBF

(32,100 posts)
25. Some juries are more laid back than others I guess.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:08 PM
Jan 2012

We know that some folks (myself included) slip at times, others consistently push the boundaries. It is the latter I'm more concerned about and my feeling is that eventually it catches up with them because most juries are not so lenient.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
29. it just makes du look so stupid. think of the boards that have crap like this in subject
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:13 PM
Jan 2012

they are intellectually lacking.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
27. i waited before speaking out until jury came back. jury came back saying bitch is ok.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:11 PM
Jan 2012

so i posted my post, as offensive as i see it, hoping someone along the way gets it. and the results. what gets me, is if they posted this in freeperland

hillary is a
gifford is a
pelosi is a

we would be all in a titter about the knuckledraggin misogynists.....

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
33. I know. I'm at a loss on this stuff as to what to do.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:26 PM
Jan 2012

Juries are inconsistent with posts like this, so I guess all we can do is post directly in the thread. I'm not sure whether that will work over time, but it seems like the best approach. Keep alerting and then, if the jury comes back without hiding the post, post in the thread itself and make the point. Ask the poster if he'd call his mother or sister that name. There are so many better words that can be used that have no sexism attached to them. Perhaps some people's vocabularies don't stretch very far.

BTW, did you check off the TOS option in your alert. If you always do that, some recent arrivals may get banned. Not always, but sometimes.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
42. i am aware of the TOS situation now. i wasnt at the beginning with a newbie
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:44 PM
Jan 2012

i have learned it since.

i think, what i see as a postive on it, with people continually speaking out and some posts are hidden, it effects our ability to jury on du. and seeing it is 3/3 and other threads have been hidden, an observant poster may ask themselves if it is worth hurting their record with a hidden post.

one more juror and it would have gone the other way. other posts today have been hidden. one the other night making warner into a play thing. people will think twice.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,367 posts)
64. Sadly, Pelosi was frequently called that, on DU, between 2007 and 2009 or so
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:18 PM
Jan 2012

you can just type '"Pelosi" "bitch"' in the DU search box to see some of the results. There are many DUers who consider it an acceptable term to use; and back then, many who thought Pelosi was worthy of being insulted like that.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
65. i alerted on du2 and they were deleted. maybe these are the ones no one saw to alert
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:20 PM
Jan 2012

that would be a way to still find them on du2. but seems to me, the mods would delete.

Response to DemonSpawn (Original post)

Initech

(100,104 posts)
32. I just overheard several coworkers discussing how awesome this was.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:21 PM
Jan 2012

First Brewer is certifiably psychotic. Second if they'd think for themselves instead of letting Fux and Limbaugh do their thinking for them they'd realize it wasn't that awesome.

TBF

(32,100 posts)
34. It's a very troubling picture -
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:26 PM
Jan 2012

the vitriol I'm seeing from some towards our POTUS is something else. I blame FAUX news for alot of the tension that we've seen the past few years. IMO they've taken the racism out there and amplified it.

Initech

(100,104 posts)
41. I saw something yesterday that SS activity has risen 400% since 2008.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:38 PM
Jan 2012

400%!!!!!! 400%!!!! I agree that the hatred and vitriol spewed from Fux and AM hate radio everyday is fucking disgusting and it's only gonna get worse. Even if Obama is reelected it's gonna be a long four years.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
35. How would you feel if someone used that word to describe
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:27 PM
Jan 2012

your mother or sister? Think about it, then try to think of some other word to use, please.

Hatchling

(2,323 posts)
38. Other words you could use instead.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:34 PM
Jan 2012

malicious, despicable, disagreeable, evil, hateful, malevolent, rancorous, spiteful, venomous, vicious, arrogant.

Or if it must be a derogatory term, you could try Asshole which can be a gender neutral term.

Would you consider editing your title?

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
48. One other scenario occurs to me.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:56 PM
Jan 2012



Would she have gotten in Obama's face like that if they were
not in a public setting and cameras were not present?




Ans: No


HipChick

(25,485 posts)
57. Please don't insult bacon....she's a hag
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:26 PM
Jan 2012

she has bad sun skin damage...prob a good candidate for skin cancer at this point..

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