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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 06:59 AM Jan 2013

Millions of pages of secret historical documents being unveiled to the public

he government’s three-year-old National Declassification Center has completed its task of evaluating a backlog of 361 million pages of classified documents to determine which can be released to the public, the National Archives and Records Administration announced on Thursday.

In its sixth biannual report, the center, which President Obama established by executive order in January 2010 to work across agencies to boost transparency, said the now -complete assessment process has so far resulted in the release or reclassification of 90 million historical pages.

One batch of documents, for example, involved the long-controversial Katyn Forest massacre of 1940, in which thousands of Polish military officers were executed. Historians for years debated whether the Germans or the Soviets were responsible, with consensus settling on the latter.

“To reach that milestone,” said NDC Director Sheryl Shenberger, “our staff voluntarily worked extra hours, deciphering old, sometimes almost indecipherable notes in project folders; cracking open dusty boxes; analyzing their contents for potential equity and quality review concerns; and scrupulously capturing all significant data points.”

http://www.govexec.com/management/2013/01/millions-pages-secret-historical-documents-being-unveiled-public/60899/?oref=river

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Millions of pages of secret historical documents being unveiled to the public (Original Post) The Straight Story Jan 2013 OP
I wonder what "sensitivities over nuclear weapons" means. ananda Jan 2013 #1
My guess Archaic Jan 2013 #10
I hope I don't miss the synopsis report. Baitball Blogger Jan 2013 #2
Interesting. Democracyinkind Jan 2013 #3
Probably because it accuses banks of treason Demeter Jan 2013 #6
You speak the unspeakable (at least as far as this place is concerned) Democracyinkind Jan 2013 #7
Yikes! Can't have that! nt raouldukelives Jan 2013 #8
time to rewrite the history books. nt onlyadream Jan 2013 #4
This is an example . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #5
+1 freshwest Jan 2013 #9

ananda

(28,876 posts)
1. I wonder what "sensitivities over nuclear weapons" means.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:02 AM
Jan 2013

That part has me curious, and that is exactly the part they want to redact. Shame.

Archaic

(273 posts)
10. My guess
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:28 AM
Jan 2013

Everybody and their mom knows they can look up how to make a nuclear weapon online.

However, there are some SIGNIFICANT engineering challenges involved. Some work that needs to be done to ensure that when you push the button, it does precisely what you want it to. Every time. Period. And more importantly, it never, ever goes off without you asking it to.

North Korea, and countries like that have to have nuclear tests because the really secret sauce isn't getting the right materials together and smacking them together, but what to store them in, in what shape, in what proportions.

There are some who believe that the day that type of info makes it out, that we'll stop seeing nuclear tests out of Iran and North Korea. We'll see developed weapon systems as we've done their homework. They can save on the materials used in testing because we have released the math/engineering that's required to get it right the first time.

North Korea only does underground testing because they aren't sure of their weapon quality. They're getting close on delivery systems, but the weapon wouldn't be a guaranteed hit. It's a side benefit that they get brought back to the table every time they run that test. It buys them time, and demonstrates their dominance of the world to their people. This is of course a fiction, but they have such tight control on information, that they can behave that way.

Iran is gathering the materials, and probably hoping they can buy the weapon design by the time they've gathered enough so they don't have to waste it on a test. That's just my speculation.

I'm all about transparency. But not on this stuff. I just wish we could all evolve to the point that we don't think that these weapons are useful. Shut them all down, disassemble them along with the Russians, Brits, French. And really impose serious problems on any country that thinks they get to have one.

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
3. Interesting.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:14 AM
Jan 2013

Although I can't remember any historian "debating" that Katyn was some sort of false flag Op by the Nazis. That's simply ridiculous. I think almost all serious historians have ascribed Katyn to the Soviets (which does not mean that the nazis didn't kill people in that generel vicinity after taking over from the Soviets).

Some stuff, I simply can't believe - like all the documents that are still hidden. I remember Michael Parenti telling the anecdote of searching for some documents relating to Lincoln's assassination as being "classified until further notice". Or certain cables from August 1914 that would help better explain the path to World War 1.... Still classified. History is always "as far as we now can tell" - never "the way it was"....
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
6. Probably because it accuses banks of treason
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:41 AM
Jan 2013

the "eternal, immortal Corporate citizenry" would be hurt if their crimes were made public, especially if Lincoln's death was organized to kill his greenback coup over the banksters. Du Pont is another likely candidate for cover up.

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
7. You speak the unspeakable (at least as far as this place is concerned)
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:04 AM
Jan 2013

I tend to agree, with the added caveat that the plots you talk about reveal a mastery of plausible denial that proves yet impenetrable to scientific measures of inquiry...

I think I just learned something very important about our resident weekend economists by this interaction. Thank you

edit to humorously add: Woe upon that unfortunate day on which opium runners discovered that central banking was the best of scams...

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
5. This is an example . . .
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:36 AM
Jan 2013

Last edited Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:43 AM - Edit history (2)

This is an example of the kind of truly important things a President can do, with or without congressional support. Historians will forever site this decision as one of President Obama's most lasting contributions. The significance is enormous. Those who study the past will forever be in his debt; after all, these records could easily have been shredded or just allowed to rot away, as so many others, regrettably, already have.

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