It's a shame to see Patrick Leahy's name in red at the top of that list.

WTF????

I just give the fuck up. No one--not ONE of our so-called Democrats--gives two fat shits about us.

It's a game to them. Fuck them all.

Bake

shortly after his election.

So who doesn't belong on the list?

Harkin who's leaving and not Baucus.

...or it was their turn to take the hit for the rest. Collusion.

"Correction: The 8 who it was determined could take the hit with least damage."

Why let two Democrats who are remaining in the Senate "take the hit"?

It would also be easy to let Democrats in red states "take the hit." Theory falls apart.

who is vulnerable, who has taken a hit lately...

It's a very slick game, and professionally played.

"Always watch who is up for re-election, who is vulnerable, who has taken a hit lately..."

...through this conspiracy.

Up for re-election...

for: Durbin, Franken and Landreiu

against: Baucus, Levin and Pryor

watch the *timing,* too.

When is this election?

Prosense, your feigned naivete is absolutely adorable, as always.

"Prosense, your feigned naivete is absolutely adorable, as always."

...I think your theory is a big FAIL.

I never got credit for simple, observed reality before.

Did you notice my sunrise this morning? It was killer.

after 2014 the GOP takes the senate, which is a possibility.

Or next-to-nothing, as apparently occurred.

Because as we all know, the Dems like to keep their powder dry.

They have mountains of dry powder....

supporting filibuster reform?

They CAN do the demographics on those phone numbers, you know.

they wouldn't have to worry about losing the Senate.

I fucking give up.

Bake

You're 100% correct! As other posters here have mentioned, this is a game to prevent any and all progressive legislation that might benefit the average American from passing.

We're looking at four more years of gridlock by the Republicans, thanks to those eight "Dems".

If he had been for this, the others might have come around.

will vote against it.

Rotating villains: That's how the dirty little game is played:

Is Greenwald going to start the revolution?

I can't wait!

We're being played like violins and I'm damn sick of it

We need to crack this nut....Any suggestions?

that the lobbyists they pander to got what they wanted. Reid, lied on more than one occasion I see. If this was a effort to preserve the Fillibuster in case of a minority it wont work. The Repubs have no problem of using their majority (unlike the Dems) and will either pass a measure similar to what these Dems refused to do or get rid of it all together. This is political cowardice added with corporate pandering mixed with it.

Reid treated the minority party leader like a equal and even negotiated with him. Why? They have a lot of the same interests. We don't like the repubs and do not want to see a repub majority in the senate but all we have been getting is a watered version of them from the senate. They want to try to keep the chamber in 2014 after pulling this shit? We liberal voters are not stupid (unlike a lot of the GOP votes) and we see exactly what's going on. With the recent retirements and this crap I really doubt it.

Pryor is from Arkansas, Manchin from WV, and Baucus from Montana those aren't safe states.

More robust filibuster reforms could have made it easier to pass her gun ban in the Senate. She's a tough cookie to figure out sometimes.

and Boxer did not?

I officially live in Crazy World...

Dems wouldn't use the filibuster for fear the Pukes might eliminate it. When the Dems are in majority the Pukes go nuts abusing the filibuster and the Dems are too chickenshit to enact meaningful reforms. ARGH!

needs to go imo. Next (just dreaming) we need to address the power of lobbies. The sheer cowardice of it is galling. Reid, went on the Rachel Maddow show and plus stood up on the senate floor and said that he supported significant reform just to turn around and vote against it?

You are right. It is well past time to smack down these corporate-sucking clowns, hard.

We need serious, permanent reform of this corrupt system, because they are literally selling our country out from under us.

weren't very busy.

Considering some of the strange bed-fellows Obama's Centrism has created, I'm wondering if the fact that there were not enough supporting senator votes wasn't due to the fact that what calls itself "the Left" did not materialize on this issue . . . now, why would that be? Hypotheses, anyone?

Interesting that this filibuster issue came to this particular nexus right as, and immediately after, we all started seeing the research about Right Wing gun-worshipping revolutionaries seeking opportunities to demonstrate their "rights" in armed confrontation with government. You know the information about those eager to water the tree of their own fascism with the blood of others recruited from behind various masks. That all got much more outed right concurrently with the decision about filibuster reform, which, for some reason, didn't have the votes that Harry Reid (a very careful person in these matters) thought that it might.

Now why is that?

in what calls itself "the Left" here, which, consequently didn't deliver the MASSIVE demographics needed to make a filibuster reform more of a possible win, after 2014, than it apparently added up to, so the Senate regressed to the status-quo position on this.

Weren't 60 votes needed to bring back the Talking Filibuster?

Bernie Sanders also voted against it
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022273458

Even if both Sanders and King had voted with the Dems, wouldn't it still have been 3 votes short of the 60 necessary?

Why didn't the President push hard for a return to the Talking Filibuster?

I don't think Harry Reid deserves all the blame here.

"Unlike Senator Jon Tester, who was a loud and proud co-sponsor of filibuster reform, Max Baucus helped kill the measure behind closed doors, resulting in the fake 'reform' that won't fix the broken United States Senate."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022281122/

Oh boy.

bad boys and girls every time a pro-democracy/human/labor bill comes up for a vote.

This enhances the illusion of democracy to the masses.

1% for all, and all for 1%.