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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNewtown first responders: “Words can’t describe how horrible it was”
Reliving Horror and Faint Hope at Massacre Site.................
As he left the building that day, Officer Tom Bean, who had also been off duty when he rushed to the scene, realized he had not told his wife where he was. He fumbled for his phone in the parking lot, and called her. Thats when I broke down in tears, crying, he said.
More than a month later, the officers continue to feel the pain of that day. Some spoke reluctantly, not wanting to compare their torment with the agony of the families of the children and adult victims. But they also worried about their ability to do their jobs, as they continue to suffer. They said they omitted some details out of sensitivity to the victims, and to protect the investigation as it continued.
At least one person, Officer Bean, said he has already received a diagnosis of post-traumatic stress disorder. He said he had been unable to return to work since the shootings, and had needed medication to sleep.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/29/nyregion/horrors-of-newtown-shooting-scene-are-slow-to-fade.html?pagewanted=1&smid=tw-share
Beaverhausen
(24,472 posts)Can't imagine what it's like for them. How do you get those images out of your memory?
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)And my heart absolutely breaks for the entire town of Newtown.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,199 posts)It was an English course about literature which struggled to convey things and concepts which words could not truly describe.
This had to be the epitome of The Unspeakable.
malaise
(269,182 posts)Those images will never leave them.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)So tragic. So horrible.
Atman
(31,464 posts)LisaLynne
(14,554 posts)those of us who are not in that position can never imagine. And they see it again and again. Hopefully, these particular people will never have to see anything this horrific ever again (and I would give anything if no one else would either), but every day they go out, there is no telling what they will be faced with.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Though for me stuff like sids is the worse as its young infants and the peacefullness of the scene.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)makes my heart stop.
Kber
(5,043 posts)Their honesty about how they were affected, about how even "tough guys" break down in tears, about PTSD, will help others.
I wish them, and all affected, love and healing.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)How can you see those innocent poor babies blown to bits and not have PTSD?
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)Rare thing, but nice to see nonetheless.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)How so? Do you have evidence of this?
Hekate
(90,827 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)What DU does not appreciate is authoritarians who shoot first and get absolved second. You are trying too hard to slander DU. I wonder why.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)K&R
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)may they become warriors for peace.
Initech
(100,104 posts)It did. Assault rifles are going away. Get over it.
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)that it sickens me as well to see gun-control proponents exploit this tragedy to push a political agenda, and has from the beginning. It's being used to manipulate the emotions of the public to achieve a long-held political goal. Don't like it.
Initech
(100,104 posts)But when you see things like "Father Of Kid Killed in Newtown Shooting Heckled At State Senate Hearing", how fucked up is that and what does it say about our society?
SunSeeker
(51,720 posts)I mean, THAT is what you find "sickening" about this?! That it is being used to support gun control?! Wow. Just wow.
villager
(26,001 posts)But then the Great God Gun must always come first.
Always.
tblue
(16,350 posts)Dang. Who knew?
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Yeah we shouldn't point out that had we done something long ago this wouldn't have happened. Gun control advocates should just not say anything. Your comment literally makes me ill.
bullwinkle428
(20,631 posts)same thing as those pushing for stronger gun laws in the wake of the tragedy.
Paladin
(28,275 posts)And don't worry about looking for an argument, because it's pretty obvious you don't have one.....
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
butterflygirl
(44 posts)I'm all for it.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)the first responders, and the rest of the majority of the country would feel if gun-control proponents just sat quietly and did nothing.
I have to say...that it sickens me to see comments like yours posted here.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)And if this wasn't DU, I wouldn't use the word screw. We're not exploiting anything. We're tired of seeing this. That means ridding our nation of the pestilence that is assault rifles.
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)You have your opinion on the matter, I have mine.
If you have something to say to me that you are too afraid to post, you can always pm me.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)Really. Wtf are you talking about?
morningfog
(18,115 posts)You have lost all credibility and legitimacy. You did it to yourself.
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)I like cjeekdog.
neverforget
(9,437 posts)happening again? Seriously?
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)If it's too much for you to handle, maybe you should make use of the ignore feature.
Just sayn'.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)D'oh! Forgot who I was talking to...
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)...you mean I can never have a real discussion with morningfog?!
Will I ever be able to sleep again...
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)I'll have to find more of your posts next time I have trouble sleeping.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Read them all!
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Sleep well.
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)CBHagman
(16,987 posts)Shock and horror aren't aberrations in this case, nor are they manufactured.
The status quo serves particular moneyed interests who insist on absolute power and absolute fealty. Gun control advocates represent law enforcement survivors, victims, communities.
I wish you'd just left your comment off, especially considering the OP.
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)Gun control advocates do not represent all, and I doubt most, LE.
But that is all beyond my comment.
I simply see opportunism on behalf of those who seek to push gun control by using the Newton tragedy as a tool of manipulation. Some gun control advocates have said we must strike while the iron is hot. Obama himself has said he hoped it would stay fresh in the minds of the public.
In my opinion it is wrong to use the senseless deaths of those children to further a political agenda that existed long before this tragedy ever happened. It just strikes me as tactless and lacking respect for those victims.
My post was a response to a post in this thread, not to the OP.
I respect that you may have a view that differs from mine. However, that doesn't change my view. What I've described, to me, is glaringly obvious.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)You find it inappropriate to use the Newtown massacre as an impetus for gun reform. Please, tell me more, Skip.
mountain grammy
(26,655 posts)with legally obtained assault weapons is something we shouldn't talk about because it's exploiting a tragedy? Our emotions are being manipulated? Really? Do you have any emotions? If you own these weapons, I'm afraid of you.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)in 2010 - a woman named Martha Dean. She ended up losing by about 10%, but it's scary that she was that close to a statewide office even though she was the state teabagger's dream candidate. When going through a divorce, her now ex-husband had gotten their son into some prestigious science program for the summer, however Dean took the son out of the science program and had him go to some shooting camp for teens that summer instead.
lastlib
(23,290 posts)These guns have got to go!
mike dub
(541 posts)I sure hope you're right, Initech.
Congress is already trying to jump off to the next big thing (immigration reform). Seems like an odd distraction to me. Hope they don't lose memory of the horrors of Newtown... I hope I'm wrong - but I'm feeling more and more pessimistic lately. The pain of that day will live on, but Washington seems to be putting it on the backburner/ignoring it/letting it "go away".
yardwork
(61,712 posts)Rooms full of dead babies. I can't imagine.
All first responders deserve our praise and support, and they ought to get paid a heckuva lot more. First responders should be making millions of dollars, not CEOs.
Moostache
(9,897 posts)The pay structure of our entire society is disgusting. There are many people who gnash their teeth and lament our society's ultimate downfall...not me...I am rooting for the next group to get it right where we have gone so irretrievably wrong.
yardwork
(61,712 posts)I feel that our pay scale is flipped the wrong way. People who enjoy power should be willing to do those jobs with fairly low pay. After all, they get a lot of perks. In contrast, people who do the essential work that keeps us alive and healthy - first responders, nurses and doctors (especially primary care doctors), fire fighters, police officers, garbage collectors, plumbers, public works employees, ditch diggers, and others who do difficult, essential work should get paid millions.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)Please don't forget teachers. We are -- sadly -- counted as victims of school shootings like this one. I cannot imagine the horror of a deranged gun wielder threatening my precious students. I cannot imagine the horror of witnessing the aftermath of such insane violence.
yardwork
(61,712 posts)lastlib
(23,290 posts)Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)You see lots of horrible things. I worked the ER and critical care. School bus accidents, child abuse cases, motorcycle and auto accidents, all manner of trauma came in. All were bad.
yardwork
(61,712 posts)I appreciate what you did. I'm sorry for what you had to see.
One day when my kids were little we saw an ambulance parked in a strip mall near our house. The paramedics seemed to be on their lunch break. Thinking that they wouldn't mind if I showed my kids the ambulance, I approached them and asked if my kids could look at the inside of the ambulance. The paramedics looked so sad when they saw my kids. They said something about all the little kids they'd had to care for in that ambulance. I realized how deadly serious this was.
Robb
(39,665 posts)This one gets to me.
SunSeeker
(51,720 posts)The horror of this incident is just too much to bear.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Giving out details just to make people have "feelings".
You aren't supposed to have "feelings".
That's for wimps.
We're AMERICANS damn it!
We're supposed to be cold, dead in the center assholes only concerned with the intrusive government taking away our freedom to sit in homes with bars on the windows giving us a view like we are in prison as we point a $2,500 AR-15 at the door to protect our $40 Walmart DVD player.
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)Of soldiers in Afghanistan who have to see such things on regular basis.
mainer
(12,029 posts)Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)I mean, seriously, he should get some serious mental health treatment.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)part of their job?
They will never fully recover, though I think they can go on to live successful lives.
This is so wrong.
no_hypocrisy
(46,193 posts)Before each House of Congress.
mokawanis
(4,452 posts)Anytime I slip into thinking what that scene must have looked like I just have to turn it off.
BootinUp
(47,194 posts)pauldemmd195j
(36 posts)May the victims of this atrocity rest in peace. Here's hoping more sensible gun laws will be enacted in the near future.
mountain grammy
(26,655 posts)Maybe it'll give us the strength to overcome the hate and deal with reality.